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I think only wind surge needs only air runes, the other surge spells might continue to require death and/or bloods.

Don't quote me on that, but I seem to have somehow gotten that from the latest vid.

 

Except that that wouldn't make any sense lol.

 

 

Afkable 99 mage for free? Ok.

 

You'd have to keep monsters available though, not 100% afk? And we have no idea what the xp rate would be.

 

All you have to do is just splash on monsters since the base exp of the spell is decent. You could also mage skeleton monkies with it for only the cost of prayer potions.

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All you have to do is just splash on monsters since the base exp of the spell is decent. You could also mage skeleton monkies with it for only the cost of prayer potions.

 

You are speculating on one part of a change that will revise everything we know about the game. We don't know if base spell xp will remain constant or not. Also surge boxes will be inside dungeons only. Sure air staffs might work.. But I think base spell xp will be changing.

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Needs more arrow rain.

I kinda want a Saggitare style range combat, high mage defense, immune to range, can keep meleers at bay, and awesome attacks.

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Ice barrage now costs 2 blood runes and 5 water runes. No deaths.

 

Rush and burst use Deaths, Barrage and Blitz use Bloods.

 

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I can definitely see Magic Ultimates having a cost in High-level runes, so that might be where Deaths/Bloods are most used post-update.

 

As far as we know, abilities won't have rune costs... Ala, cheap magic.

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Rune costs for magic damage spells have been reworked and are generally much cheaper. The standard air spells now just require air runes, so you can cast for free with an air staff.

 

Using the new abilities does not consume ammo for mages or rangers, only your auto attacks comsume ammo, so the cost of combat for mages and rangers should come down quite a bit.

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It may well change during the beta. But I hope they don't just eliminate the real need for combat runes in mage. Cheaper is good though :)

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I think only wind surge needs only air runes, the other surge spells might continue to require death and/or bloods.

Don't quote me on that, but I seem to have somehow gotten that from the latest vid.

 

Except that that wouldn't make any sense lol.

Afkable 99 mage for free? Ok.

1. You can already get melee skills to 99 for free the same way

2. AFKing without spending any money would be slower xp

3. You can already get afkable 99 mage at a profit

 

There will be a free item shop.

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Glacors just got a lot more profitable.

Glacor drops just got a lot cheaper*

 

Ontopic sidenote, interesting the changes to armour hinted in the video, and the stats of weapons. I have a slight fear that this may be the phase out of fixed mode.. Fixed mode screen is going to be getting very small fitting in the action bar as well.. Although that said, one of the main drawbacks of resizable/fullscreen is the increased effort switching between interfaces, so perhaps it may not be such a bad choice anymore.

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Ontopic sidenote, interesting the changes to armour hinted in the video, and the stats of weapons. I have a slight fear that this may be the phase out of fixed mode.. Fixed mode screen is going to be getting very small fitting in the action bar as well.. Although that said, one of the main drawbacks of resizable/fullscreen is the increased effort switching between interfaces, so perhaps it may not be such a bad choice anymore.

 

It looks like the chat gets smaller when action bar is visible.

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Glacors just got a lot more profitable.

Glacor drops just got a lot cheaper*

 

Ontopic sidenote, interesting the changes to armour hinted in the video, and the stats of weapons. I have a slight fear that this may be the phase out of fixed mode.. Fixed mode screen is going to be getting very small fitting in the action bar as well.. Although that said, one of the main drawbacks of resizable/fullscreen is the increased effort switching between interfaces, so perhaps it may not be such a bad choice anymore.

Maybe they'll just not allow for the action bar in fixed screen? Although I can't say I'd be completely surprised if they got rid of fixed screen completely.

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Without the need to move around interfaces during high-tension moments, it should be a lot easier to do many activities like low-alch fishing and so forth.

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If the action bar isn't rebindable I'll know the people at Jagex are idiots.

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If the action bar isn't rebindable I'll know the people at Jagex are idiots.

 

It is obviously rebindable

 

1) you can reassign keys.

2) you can reassign slots.

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If the action bar isn't rebindable I'll know the people at Jagex are idiots.

 

It is obviously rebindable

 

1) you can reassign keys.

2) you can reassign slots.

 

That's not what I meant. Rebindable as in bindable to mouse scroll wheel, alt/shift keys, etc.

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If the action bar isn't rebindable I'll know the people at Jagex are idiots.

 

It is obviously rebindable

 

1) you can reassign keys.

2) you can reassign slots.

 

That's not what I meant. Rebindable as in bindable to mouse scroll wheel, alt/shift keys, etc.

 

^ 1) you can reassign keys.

 

We don't know if you can bind them to combo (ctrl+a) keys, or the mouse wheel yet.

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When the boxes are deleted and the refunds given the runes will not be refunded currently (this may change if I get the time to do it, but its low on my list of tasks). I would recommend taking the runes out of your boxes just to be safe. The update that deletes the boxes won't be until the combat rework goes to the live servers in several months time though.

 

Typical Jagex competency, they plan for something to screw over players?

You make it sound like running through a few level 87 monsters is hard which it really shouldn't be at your level.

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