HTML5 beta discussion

[Ruinous Edge]

Just want to let people know I *think* they may have invited more people to play the New Interface System Alpha. I just received my e-mail and it is official!

 

It says that in the update post:

 

"Today, we've also opened up the New Interface Alpha to everyone who registered their interest (although you must still be a member in order to access the alpha)."

About time, should have done this day NIS alpha went live, now I'm behind/playing catch up on the early access people once more on beta/alpha testing

Still awaiting my access for html5 though :/

[J35u5_M4]

7 FPS on NIS, I really need to upgrade my RAM, stupid DDR2 RAMs

[Sbrideau]

Depends on how much % of your RAM is in use, the fact that it's DDR2 doesn't change much when it comes to this kind of games. Usually FPS in Rs has more to do with the processor than anything else.

[Kimberly]

I was sent a valid email from Runescape for the NIS beta, but I never registered my interest for it. (I've learned my lesson from the EoC debacle, they need better testers than I can be.) So what gives?

[Sy_Accursed]

^Got gold or silver membership back in dec/jan?

[Ammako]

Eh, can't hurt to have you added to the list of people who can log onto the beta, even though you wouldn't be logging into it.

[Urza285]

Yeah I feel kind of bad for being one of the gold membership players who hasn't done much on beta. The issue is optimization and making it so much harder to play web the FPS is jacked up.

[strilmus]

I'm sort of annoyed that I wasn't able to do anything to help with the beta in general, since their system isn't really set up to handle submitting that information in a useful manner.

 

(however, it seems that the alpha filled up before i had access, so i was shut out of the area where i could have helped...)

 

overall, I think maybe they should start paying attention to how their testing is set up?

 

can't just throw it out there and be all "hey, test this thing, and if you find something, we'll kinda find out through this untested feedback system"

 

also, it's unclear if their html5 game was actually recording anything when it was being run, or if they were just wasting our time

[Platinum_Myr]

Haven't seen these updated here in a while

 

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Mod Chris E

 

Jagex Mod

18-Apr-2013 12:07:11 Last edited on 16-May-2013 17:00:01 by Mod Philip Profile

We'll try to keep this thread up to date with our patches as we launch them. It's worth noting that we have a 'warm-fix' system in place for the HTML5 client which means all you need to do is refresh your page to get the latest one - no game updates required!

 

16/05 - 14:01

- Fixed some chat privacy setting bugs with public chat

- Store data in different areas of local storage for different languages of the game

- Don't show "are you sure you want to leave" message when you try to navigate away from an error page

- Fix some roof-remove bugs

- Fix bug with players floating above some underground geometry

- Fix bug with Gnome Gate teleporting the player underground

- Fix Dwarf Cannon not rotating correctly

- Fix transparency of items being dragged in the bank

- Fix some texture corruption causing models to appear black

 

08/05 - 15:08

- Fixed crash with customised NPCs (eg. Clan flags)

 

08/05 - 13:57

- Optimised 3D geometry rendering on many GPUs

- Optimised 3D world construction to improve frame rates

- Optimised shadow/reflection effects to have less of an effect on framerate

- Added hint arrows to world and minimap

- Added hint trails to world

- Separated cache on beta worlds from live worlds

- Fixed click areas on world locations (doors etc)

- Fixed crashes with customised mtx objects

- Fixed a crash with ground targeting

- Fixed a crash with one NPC spawn

- Fixed QBD lair visibility problems

- Fixed height map in Brimhaven agility arena

- Fixed some multi-level buildings height mapping (mill in Taverley amoungst others)

- Fixed winged auras

- Fixed ogre animations in some areas

- Fixed missing particles in some areas

- Fixed roof colours in Pollnivneach

- Fixed minimap dot colouring for friends

- Fixed reflection effects on un-textured surfaces

- Turned off specular effect in shadowed areas

 

30/04 - 16:45

- Fixed latency issue on https (SSL) connection option

- Made game fail over to SSL connection option if non-SSL fails to connect

- Fixed duplicate world builds on initial login

- Fixed issue with some NPC right click options

- Fixed several graphical issues with the RuneSpan minigame

- Optimised bone animation system by 25%

- Fixed inventory issue causing spell and ability icons to not light up

- Fixed clan rank display

- The graphics team have added flowing water to much of the overworld

 

26/04 - 15:00

-Fixed a couple of crash bugs

-Optimised point lights a bit

-Fixed some issues that caused the customisation booth to land on the wrong floor

-Fixed flags/locations for worlds in the lobby so they don't all say UK

-Optimise areas of the world that allow you to do server-side actions, so they can be sent to the graphics card in fewer batches - this will also allow things to be 'op-ed' from further away

-Improved the error page that says your browser/computer doesn't support everything we need, so that it says exactly what you are missing

-Fixed player height above ground during some animations

-Fixed Spanish version of HTML5 client

 

23/04 - 16:45

-Fixed a major cause of slowdown in busy areas (friends list related)

-Optimised some bounding calculations

-Added a content download network tracker to 'displayfps'

-Added player head icons (prayer/PK etc)

-Added player customisation colouring/texturing

-Fixed chat in chat box offset issue

-Fixed scripting crash with display names

-Fixed crash on selecting to join a friend in another world

-Fixed crash for NPCs without chat heads

-Fixed missing items in Grand Exchange search

-Fixed compass graphic scaling

 

19/04 - 16:16

-Fixed facebook and other single sign on logins

-Reduced lighting intensity on player and NPC models

 

19/04 - 13:54

-Enabled secure websocket connections to the game worlds to help people behind outdated proxy servers

-Fix for when game tab is not focused causing logouts and crashes

-Added handling for multiple NPCs and players standing on top of each other

-Fixed tooltip on pets

-Fixed crash bug with resized windows and some post process effects

-Fixed dungeoneering map

-Added option to turn off custom cursors

-Fixed another clan variable crash

-Fixed a crash with removing head bars

-Fixed a crash with NPC variables

 

18/04 - 18:14

-Fixed frequent object usage crash (affected some setups of PoPs among other things)

 

18/04 - 16:43

-Fixed some more issues with clan variables

-Stopped audio playing for other player's animations

-Fixed a bug whereby other players might appear offset from where they actually were

-Fixed a crash with re-coloured interface models

-Fixed a crash with interface models with particle effects

 

18/04 - 12:28

-Fixed some more crashes involving clan chat

-Fixed an issue with clan variables (may make citadels work for some people)

-Fixed problems with invalid keycodes causing rebinds

-Improved speed of a full bank

-Add some more debug output for a common crash involving object usage

 

17/04

-Fixed some server crashes related to web socket connections

-Fixed some crashes related to clan chat

-Fixed an issue with the ignore list causing crashes

-Fixed client start up errors to redirect to correct error pages

-Fixed bug in quest client script commands

-Fixed problems connecting to instance shards

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Mod Sushi Pi

 

Jagex Mod

16-Apr-2013 12:58:35 Last edited on 26-Apr-2013 17:59:28 by Mod Thatjim Profile

Patch Notes from 26/04/2013:

 

• Chat tabs now only flash three times to alert you to any changes.

• Update ‘Classic’ preset to have the correct preview image.

• The camera now scales based on the zoom level of the player.

• Added an improved ‘default’ preset on the login selection menu.

• Moved the default position of the buffs window.

• Removed WSAD camera control.

• Fixed issues with interfaces not swapping palaces correctly.

• Fixed issues with the resizing when switching between layouts and graphics options.

• Changed Zoom keybinding to ‘Page Up’ and ‘Page Down’.

• Corrected the camera zoom for the ‘Old School’ preset.

• My Gear interface now shows the correct money pouch values.

• Prayers/Curses interfaces are now better at remembering their size.

• Stopped the zoom from being locked in to player when changing from old school layout.

• Corrected the mouse-over text on the Report Bugs button.

• Ribbon and ability bar GFX can now be seen on be seen on login before interacting with them.

• Bank Search now longer leaves the game dialogue open.

• Deposit items interface no longer disappears after moving a central interface or resizing the browser.

• The camera no longer locks up in Dungeoneering.

• Tooltips are no longer being cut off screen.

• Locked some interfaces in the ribbon that not currently being used.

• Fixed some issues with the placement of the ribbon.

• TLI - Curse of Arrav - Requirement 'Fully restored Senliten from Missing my Mummy' is now acknowledged.

• Resizing your browser will now update the game window resolution.

• Settings interface now closes when you are in combat.

Mod Thatjim

 

Jagex Mod

16-May-2013 17:14:58 Profile

Patch Notes from 26/04/2013:

 

• Stopped the second locked stone on the ribbon from flashing on login.

• Fixed some stretching in the header titles on parent interfaces.

• Adjusted the position on the tooltips for Friends Chat and Clan.

• Adjusted the default camera settings.

• Stopped the ‘My Adventures’ icon from disappearing when you mouse over it.

• Fixed some text overlapping in edit mode on the confirm\cancel screen.

• Moving interface with a parent open will no longer close the parent.

• Add an “N” North pointer on the compass.

• Prevented the sides of some interfaces from being pulled off.

• Fixed the sizing on some of the parent panels when they first load.

• The bottom of ability bar is no longer cut off in My Powers.

• Logging out no longer resets keybindings.

• Examining item in worn inventory no longer examines the slot from the backpack.

• Rotated the re-sizing arrows 90°.

• Customising Modifier Keys for the action bars are now working correctly.

• Minigames interfaces now closes on exiting a minigame.

• Adjusted the difference between the locked and unlocked button on the ability bars.

• Using slashes in global chat does not add text to relevant chat.

• Re-added an outline around the bars in the action bar interface while rotated left\right.

• Fixed a camera issues when jumping off the troll invasion wall.

• Fixed a rendering issue with the Player Owned Ports crew and voyage interfaces.

• Fixed a camera issue with the Brimhaven Agility course.

• Fixed a camera issue when using the agility shortcuts around the Troll Stronghold.

• You can now collect taxes during the Fremmenik Isles quest.

• Added back the pocket slot and weight icons to the Worn Equipment interface.

• Now able to use tele-grab during the Giant Dwarf quest.

• Resizing the mini-map to its smallest size with a map marker no longer causes a crash.

• Fixed a crash during My Arm's Big Adventure quest.

• Parent interface tabs are no longer clickable below where they appear to end.

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[Urza285]

21st May

 

Are there any plans to make the transitions between geographical areas more gradual now they look closer together?

 

No' date=' not at the moment. We quite like the “theme park” feel that Gielinor has, with a rich variety of location styles nudging up against each other.

 

 

When the NIS and HTML5 projects merge into one Beta, will that connect to the live game save still?

 

Any pre-release version of the NIS will not be able to connect to the live game, unfortunately. However we are going to be looking at some sort of XP reward for those that participate in the later betas.

 

 

Roughly how far along is the optimization process for the HTML5 client right now?

 

It’s still quite early days. Most of our efforts have been on fixing the worst bugs and implementing the final features (such as world map, account creation, that sort of thing). This has taken longer than anticipated, and the optimisation blitz is planned to start early June.

 

 

Will our character models see an update to the level of detail? When the NIS camera is merged into the Beta, you'll be able to zoom in much closer!

 

We don't have anything planned for the short term, no.

 

 

Do you have any plans to add lighting effects to the various light sources available in POH dungeons? At the moment the only shadows are from the rooms above.

 

We don't have any plans to touch POH for the time being, however we are constantly updating the graphics, and POH will be given a makeover at some stage.

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Quite a disgusting remark to area distancing in my opinion. We aren't asking for oblivion-like area distancing here Jagex!

 

Early june for their move on optimization. I really hope so...

[Aiel]

they could at least move the islands farther away...

[crazycdcm]

"It's a "feature", we promise, it was totally planned, and we have full control of it and could make it look normal, but err, we're deciding not to."

[Urza285]

Yeah real dumb. I give you the benefit of the the doubt the majority of the time, but that takes the cake.

[strilmus]

eh, it's not the worst thing they've decided

 

overall i just want a game that runs and does neat things

[Thus]

Did they fix the camera yet?

[J35u5_M4]

Where can I lock the interfaces? It's getting annoying the resizes when I hover over some spots

[Sy_Accursed]

Click the padlock on the corner of the menu bar.

[Platinum_Myr]

More patch notes:

 

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Mod Chris E

 

Jagex Mod

18-Apr-2013 12:07:11 Last edited on 24-May-2013 15:34:46 by Mod Philip Profile

We'll try to keep this thread up to date with our patches as we launch them. It's worth noting that we have a 'warm-fix' system in place for the HTML5 client which means all you need to do is refresh your page to get the latest one - no game updates required!

 

24/05 - 15:35

- Improve shader pre-load system, so it pre-loads a set of common shaders by default (notably this is needed because of a current restriction in WebGL which only allows shader compilation on the main thread)

- Fix some disappearing models when there are bridges and other similar areas of the game

- Add in submenu system to the minimenu

- Improve efficiency of particle emitters by allowing them to be more completely combined with the geometry they are attached to

- Allow copy-pasting of error messages!

- Add in QuickChat support

- Add in colour-picking interface support (for selecting colours for customisable items, like various capes)

- Improve GL context loss handling

- Fix reflection of water depth fog

- Add lighting detail option to graphics options

- Fix crash bug when building the map

- Fix some more random crash bugs

- Stop players/NPCs from walking through the corners of buildings and ending up flying in the air!

- Improve JAG support slightly

- Some improvements to the camera

- Some support for the new interface system

- Improve camera behaviour when you have a low frame rate

- Add some collision support to the camera

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[J35u5_M4]

I tried today HTML5 on a friend's computer with an i5, no graphics card though (or at least that's what I found out), it ran nice until I ran it on all max settings, I was probably getting around 8 fps when I did it that way

[Ambler]

I'm on an i5 3570k, so it should be able to cope, but the problem currently is getting the actual thing to load >_>

[Krampell]

Oo, panning around with the camera is no longer all slow and stuff. They really put a boost to it.

Running a 3570k too, I get around 8-15 fps running around in populated areas like Edgeville, and 25-30 in unpopulated.

[strilmus]

now, all we need to do is solve the issue of loading assets, and some of the really strange areas that aren't properly adapted to the system

 

 

[Urza285]

Oh god yes the asset loading is horrible.

[Blutters]

Another fun romp around beta. :)

1: Wide view of Karamja, from Tower of Life.

2: Tower of life basement, there are 2 cages in each spot, swinging at different times.

3: Near Barbarian Outpost. The water has begun to reclaim the land!

4: Well in Varrock, beyond the gate. Bloomin' freakin' bears!!

[Ambler]

I still can't get the damn thing to load, and I'm seriously considering getting Windows/Hackintosh just to try it. :wall: