Future Update Discussions

[Alg]

Kinda like every other game out there I've heard of lel

 

 

 

for a runescape FAN website we have little to no faith in the developers.

Well, yeah, that's what being a fan is all about.

[Ammako]

They originally promised us both new skills by the end of 2013, then they pushed Invention back and promised a 2014 release at RuneFest instead.

Are you telling me they would go and push it back to 2015?

Because from what I've gathered, the winner would be released during Summer 2014 while the other one would have to wait until the next year.

 

I think that Invention should be the winner, because I think the game needs additional gear to fill the gaps between levels.

Having gear that level up with use would allow people to have higher level wands without having to spend hundreds or thousands of millions, for example.

[DownToFletch]

I guess we'll find out

[mlskid]

While I agree that we need something to fill in the existing gaps of the broken combat system, I don't trust the new skill to do that at all. I would much rather push back invention and get Elf City out sooner. Honestly they promised more quests this year, that helps. Then that gives them an entire new area to give lore to and expand quest-wise so as an avid quester, I would LOVE to see that be opened up.

[Yoko Kurama]

They originally promised us both new skills by the end of 2013, then they pushed Invention back and promised a 2014 release at RuneFest instead.

Are you telling me they would go and push it back to 2015?

Because from what I've gathered, the winner would be released during Summer 2014 while the other one would have to wait until the next year.

 

I think that Invention should be the winner, because I think the game needs additional gear to fill the gaps between levels.

Having gear that level up with use would allow people to have higher level wands without having to spend hundreds or thousands of millions, for example.

 

Except that, the gear the invention skill is going to release is worse than existing gear, costly to make, and they said the skill would be slow to train and 'friendly to billionaires'. I can't see any reason to get excited for that. If it never comes, I won't complain.

[Ammako]

I will vote for Priffdinsnasansdasds, *if* we are getting a Lv. 90 (or at least 85) Slayer master from it.

[Unknown_Warrior]

Anyone who doesn't vote for the elf city and quest is bad, and should feel bad. And quit the game because they're bad.

 

Who says it comes with a quest?

We expect it to, but Jagex has been sneakily and adamantly always referred to the vote option as Elf City. No Mourning's End + Priffdinas finale, just explicitly Elf City.

And I have a sneaky suspicion we will get just the city.

 

Edit: Oh wait, BTS actually refers to a new quest, nevermind.

[DownToFletch]

Well there's an entry quest for the city which is nice. I wonder if they'll think of a way to say "Oh no one ever go in because such and such."

 

To players who've looked at the world map and seen a giant fenced in like, green blur on the map they'll know there was once something there for like (what was it, 10 years someone said?)

 

To new players who see it, they'll be like wow this is so cool. Jagex is so great there's nothing left to want for a game@@

[Miss Lioness]

Well there's an entry quest for the city which is nice. I wonder if they'll think of a way to say "Oh no one ever go in because such and such."

 

To players who've looked at the world map and seen a giant fenced in like, green blur on the map they'll know there was once something there for like (what was it, 10 years someone said?)

 

To new players who see it, they'll be like wow this is so cool. Jagex is so great there's nothing left to want for a game@@

 

Yes, 10 years of it!

[BloodAngel]

I would be interested to know what their plan for Seren is should the Elf City fail to win in the poll given that they say she is heavily tied to Prifddinas. They also proposed at RuneFest that her heart may well be in the centre of the city so I'd have thought we'd need the city before her world event happens?

[Saradomin_Mage]

I would be interested to know what their plan for Seren is should the Elf City fail to win in the poll given that they say she is heavily tied to Prifddinas. They also proposed at RuneFest that her heart may well be in the centre of the city so I'd have thought we'd need the city before her world event happens?

Well they did say they had enough 6th age content to last for a decade, so we might see her again in 2020 or something lol

[DownToFletch]

enough content for a decade?

 

Now imagine they could produce more of it more frequently lol

[Jabuli]

A new skill, which will probably suck at first but has a chance to be improved later:

-Will satisfy my autistic grinding needs for at least a few weeks

-Will never be dead content

-Even if it sucks, it should make divination at least a little less useless

 

OR

 

A new mid-to-high level city and a quest that are far overdue:

-Most of the budget will be spent on pretty graphics, actual content will be more than likely heavily neglected

-Likely created by untalented and/or unexperienced people who don't know the game at all resulting in underwhelming rewards and below average exp rates

-Will be dead content within a week

-If it sucks, it will probably be treated like POP was. 

-At least we get two spins for finishing the quest

 

The choise should be obvious.

[Sy_Accursed]

A new skill, which will probably suck at first but has a chance to be improved later:

-Will satisfy my autistic grinding needs for at least a few weeks

-Will never be dead content

-Even if it sucks, it should make divination at least a little less useless

 

OR

 

A new mid-to-high level city and a quest that are far overdue:

-Most of the budget will be spent on pretty graphics, actual content will be more than likely heavily neglected

-Likely created by untalented and/or unexperienced people who don't know the game at all resulting in underwhelming rewards and below average exp rates

-Will be dead content within a week

-If it sucks, it will probably be treated like POP was. 

-At least we get two spins for finishing the quest

 

The choise should be obvious.

 

A new mid to high level city

That includes the ability to crystal sing for ourselves and thus a bunch of new crystal equipment, possibly including some new bests (lvl 70 axe and pick maybe?)

It also includes new training spots with new ways to train.

New combat training locations.

A quest prior to launch

 

Just because you have a personal preference there is no need to outright ignore half of what we have been promised with the other option. Not to mention half your points are invalid.

A skill can just as easily be dead content as an area, something like firemaking that gets minimal use and is only trained for the sake of levels is a perfect example of a dead content skill.

You cannot say either update will or will not be dead content, you are not psychic and cannot foresee how they will go.

Since they are competing for the same dev budget odds are they would receive similar dev teams so it is totally bogus to claim one will likely be done badly and the other won't and by the same measure the skill is just as likely to suffer from the same underwhelming rewards and below average xp as the city.

Equally if the city sucks it also has the chance to improve later, more so than a skill areas can have new content and quests plugged in easily.

 

If your gonna make a case for it at least make real points and not just fling arguments that can just as easily apply to both options on the one you dislike whilst singing the praises of the one you do.

[xpx]

What worries me just a little bit is the fact they are giving us a choice likely means the SAME team would be working on the project, regardless of result.

 

Now imagine a team of artists and lore guys trying to bang out a new skill in 6 months- it would look nice and have a good story behind it, but most of the gameplay aspects would be rubbish and/or broken.

And the same for if a team of gameplay guys worked on the elf city. The projects are just so very different.

 

Worryingly this also likely means that jagex doesn't have the resources to work on two big projects at the same time. Either that or making the game also available on HTML5 means they have to do alot of extra work(although noone can really play the game on HTML5).

[Jabuli]

 

 

 

 

A new mid to high level city

That includes the ability to crystal sing for ourselves and thus a bunch of new crystal equipment, possibly including some new bests (lvl 70 axe and pick maybe?)

It also includes new training spots with new ways to train.

New combat training locations.

A quest prior to launch

 

Just because you have a personal preference there is no need to outright ignore half of what we have been promised with the other option. Not to mention half your points are invalid.

A skill can just as easily be dead content as an area, something like firemaking that gets minimal use and is only trained for the sake of levels is a perfect example of a dead content skill.

You cannot say either update will or will not be dead content, you are not psychic and cannot foresee how they will go.

Since they are competing for the same dev budget odds are they would receive similar dev teams so it is totally bogus to claim one will likely be done badly and the other won't and by the same measure the skill is just as likely to suffer from the same underwhelming rewards and below average xp as the city.

Equally if the city sucks it also has the chance to improve later, more so than a skill areas can have new content and quests plugged in easily.

 

If your gonna make a case for it at least make real points and not just fling arguments that can just as easily apply to both options on the one you dislike whilst singing the praises of the one you do.

 

 

I didn't expect a serious answer, but just to clarify, it was a joke to counter those "durr if you don't vote for the city, you are bad" -replies.

 

Although, I'm still right and your whole reply was delusional and [bleep]ing retarded. Ad hominem is 100% justified here.

[helring]

What worries me just a little bit is the fact they are giving us a choice likely means the SAME team would be working on the project, regardless of result.

 

Now imagine a team of artists and lore guys trying to bang out a new skill in 6 months- it would look nice and have a good story behind it, but most of the gameplay aspects would be rubbish and/or broken.

And the same for if a team of gameplay guys worked on the elf city. The projects are just so very different.

 

Worryingly this also likely means that jagex doesn't have the resources to work on two big projects at the same time. Either that or making the game also available on HTML5 means they have to do alot of extra work(although noone can really play the game on HTML5).

 

 

I could see some of the core team of the project being the same. But that doesn't necessarily mean the exact same team. I could see some of the team being similar...graphics, audio, etc. These parts would have a major time investment whether its a new skill or not. The J mods in charge of concepts and other stuff however might not be the same for the project. I could see them either allowing the invention team to do the design process for new skill but not allocating them the resources for graphics and audio until after city is done or vice versa.

[HunterDexter]

Mod Chris L is the Elf curator and is very busy with the development already. He bases most of the stuff on Mod Dylan's notes (he invented all the Elf stuff apart from the last quest, which was Chris L's work). So the quality of the quest and city isn't something I'm worried about, if they give him an large enough competent team. But he won't work on the skill if that gets the vote, I guess most of the team will hop over to that project then.

Also, yesterday a mod said ingame that it'll be MEP3, to gain access to the city, but also a story within the city itself.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Mod Chris L is the Elf curator and is very busy with the development already.

Final boss of MEP3:

 

"Elfrago has sent a crystal bomb after you! Run!"

[Howlin0001]

Wasnt there something about elf tasks being released around the time MEP3 is?

[SwreeTak]

 

Mod Chris L is the Elf curator and is very busy with the development already.

Final boss of MEP3:

 

"Elfrago has sent a crystal bomb after you! Run!"

 

 

Good that I know how to tank Vorago already then ;)

On a more serious note I really do hope that the elf city wins this vote. Now when MEP3 have been pretty much confirmed to be released if Priffdinas wins the vote I really, really wish for it to win. We have waited so long for this city. And all the feautures that will come with it; Crystal singing, new equipment and most probably quite some awesome graphics (and sound hopefully!). I really do think that this all stands over the new skill. Even though I of course would love to vote for both :p. Priffdinas certainly will get my vote this week!

[HunterDexter]

Wasnt there something about elf tasks being released around the time MEP3 is?

 

Was said at RuneFest 2011, don't know if it is still the plan.

[God Of Lego]

I personaly think they should of not even put these two up. But instead take a year to do the Elf City + A real WGS type grand master quest. This allows time for 6/7 quests inbetween now and december to round up to 200 and the fact it would be less rushed and actual content will be good at least. I have a feeling they wont be able to keep up with whats expected. Invention SHOULD of been in work months and months ago. But you know jagex.

[Wkw]

Crystal singing should have HARD requirements on it.

 

Say, the ability to make t90 tank armor and one 2h weapon for each class. Considering they want you to duct tape an armadyl staff, seismic wand, virtus wand, and another wand to make a 2h t90 staff, that is bloody stupid

 

Crystal halbred, crystal quarterstaff, crystal longbow.

 

BAM

[Alg]

Yes, let's make things even more top heavy! That will solve the problem of everything being too top-heavy!

 

...On a serious note, I will without question vote for Priffindas if it actually has meaningful content for people who aren't the 1%.