Rollback didn't only take back xp..

[Honoured]

Ah, that's a deep shame. Sorry to hear about your losses.

 

 

 

It's a problem that many people have faced today, and what's even more unfortunate is that Jagex can't do anything about it.

 

 

 

One reason they don't is because everyone could say 'I lost a Blue Partyhat in the rollback, don't suppose I could have it back?' Even though they didn't lose it.

 

 

 

Well, I hope you get back on your feet, and that a problem such as this will never happen again..

 

 

 

- Honoured :.

[Flodder450]

You shouldn't lie :shame: :shame:

 

 

 

No item were lost you went back to your last saved version and it saves wevery 15 minutes.

 

 

 

I was on with all my rares for all 3 and still have them but lost 190k smithing xp -.-

 

 

 

No items were lost those are lieing noobs who want free stuff.

 

 

 

Xp and trade where lost ONLY

i aint lie im [beeb]im sure i lost it with a ranged level too please andrew you fella jagex mod return it to my account it was [beeb] hard too collect it :pray: :pray: :pray:

[wild_goat_14]

I don't see why everyone is complaining.. On the forums it said it was only a 15 minute roll back. How did you guys get all these levels and 190k xp in smithing in 15 minutes?

 

 

 

Maybe they hadn't logged out? I don't think xp saves till you log.

[xpx]

A friend called me to catch a dragon impling- got 233 dragon darts, gave half of them to him- he logged out and i got disconnected and lost my darts, but he didnt....should have given him my infinity robes, mages book and fury aswell lol.

[Kill_Thomas9]

how did you get 190k smith exp in 15 minutes? And other insane exp amounts.

[Dork]

how did you get 190k smith exp in 15 minutes? And other insane exp amounts.

 

They didn't.

 

 

 

A rollback works like this- If a 15 minute rollback is made at 10:00 (example), it will make everything as it was at 9:45. If someone playing for 3 hours, without logging out, logs out at 9:55 their progress is only saved then. Because the rollback then made everything as it was before the progress was saved, everything done within that 3 hours is lost.

[xSxqPowerx]

I believe Andrew or Paul said that they hardly ever do rollbacks, but when servers go offline you can lose a few minutes.

 

They said that it saves ever 15 mins though. So I don't know how you lost that much.

[Dork]

I believe Andrew or Paul said that they hardly ever do rollbacks, but when servers go offline you can lose a few minutes.

 

They said that it saves ever 15 mins though. So I don't know how you lost that much.

 

Yes, it saves everything that's been logged out every 15 minutes. People still don't don't have their progress saved at all until logging out.

[darkblade986]

From what it sounds like, this is what happened...

 

 

 

 

 

At the time that the Rollback-Checkpoint saved, the guy was in the middle of a trade, with his money and the Mask in the trade window. This meant that the game decided NOT to save this data since it wasn't in the inventory or bank at the time of the save. Before the next save happened, the servers crashed. Upon reverting back to the previous save data, the money and the mask are not returned since they were in an area where they were not saved, and therefore are lost.

[bigboi18184]

im wonderin if the other guy lost his 17.8 mill ??

 

 

 

then basically over 30 million was lost on that one trade and a green mask was taken out of the game.

[stingkid]

Wow. That does suck. And to think I was so close to playing yesterday and I didn't.

[Sy_Accursed]

From what it sounds like, this is what happened...

 

 

 

 

 

At the time that the Rollback-Checkpoint saved, the guy was in the middle of a trade, with his money and the Mask in the trade window. This meant that the game decided NOT to save this data since it wasn't in the inventory or bank at the time of the save. Before the next save happened, the servers crashed. Upon reverting back to the previous save data, the money and the mask are not returned since they were in an area where they were not saved, and therefore are lost.

 

 

 

Yay someone else understands how it works.

 

 

 

It an anomaly caused by the games coding

 

 

 

In any instance of an item moving between the ingame screen and inventory or between accounts it does not exsist.

 

 

 

Therefore eg when a trade is accepted the order of operations happening is

 

"delete z instances of item #### to playera"

 

"spawn z instances ofitem #### to playerb"

 

 

 

Its the if the bkup occurs in the milliseconds between these 2 events that the items fail to exist and r lost.

 

 

 

Previously it duped items as the events happened the other way round aka the item was spawned to playerb before it was deleted from playera

[Ran_Martin]

why was there a rollback? there must have been a serious problem for them to do a rollback. They didn't do a rollback even during the falador massacre and I thought they would have then so it must have been something very serious :?

 

 

 

What was the Falador Massacre?

 

 

 

when a player was pking other players outside the wilderness (in falador) and the date of this bug abuse was coincidentally at june 6, 2006, also called 6\6\6.

 

 

 

yeah, the date was quite ironic. i don't know why he did it, he must've known he was going to be banned.

 

 

 

That's not irony, it's a coincidence

 

not coincidence, its "planning before doing".

[warren211]

why was there a rollback? there must have been a serious problem for them to do a rollback. They didn't do a rollback even during the falador massacre and I thought they would have then so it must have been something very serious :?

 

 

 

why would they rollback then? 30 or 40 people who lost items in the massacre would get their stuff, but thousands of other players would have lost things during the rollback.

 

 

 

God... I can't imagine frustration that came if someone beat jad then got rolled back...

[Michael]

They had a server crash so had to roll back, where as with the con bug they didn't have to do a roll back.

[highlanders]

Things like thing happened often in Flyff. There was disconnection 'waves'. And if you traded items just before a wave both the items and money traded would vanish, you would lose around 2 hours of exp, and lose all the drops you got during those 2 hours. it happened quite often, maybe once a day. Sometimes people would panic in the global chat and say there was going to be a rollback, and everyone logged out to save their progress. Most times it was true, I wonder where they'd get their information :-k

[silver24-7]

There is a post about this on the RSOF (sticky in the general board) by Andrew.

 

 

 

Basicly you won't get your items back, it's impossible for Jagex to check if you really lost them or you are just lying,

 

I'm not talking about you specific but I can imagine lots of people saying they lost their phat in an attempt to get one,

 

 

 

there always is... if only they would make an event to replace the lost rares... :pray:

 

 

 

happens the other way around to.

 

 

 

You go to duel arena, lose your phat to some guy.

 

You get rollback, he doesnt.

 

You log in with your phat back in your bank, he still has yours :D phat dupe ftw :P

 

 

 

I know this happened to someone by trading ti to his friend or bro and then getting a rollback only him, they both had phat afterwards XD he posted it on this forum too, try searching and u might find it :P

[spacheco]

Thats really lame that you lost your mask :( I remember one story of another rollback where 2 brothers gained a free white party hat between them.

 

 

 

I'm kinda glad I wasn't online during the roll back. Also, look at the time in the taskbar on your picture :lol:

what 13:37

 

 

 

military time smarty

[PastyGangsta]

If this keeps up every rare in the game will be gone, the economy will go out of whack and its impossible to know what will happen to the prices of other items...

 

 

 

Although I wouldn't mind if every rare in the game dissapeared except my santa (i could sell it for 5 bil or more!! :thumbsup: )

 

 

 

On topic: really sorry man, that sucks. :(

[Iamdan]

From what it sounds like, this is what happened...

 

 

 

 

 

At the time that the Rollback-Checkpoint saved, the guy was in the middle of a trade, with his money and the Mask in the trade window. This meant that the game decided NOT to save this data since it wasn't in the inventory or bank at the time of the save. Before the next save happened, the servers crashed. Upon reverting back to the previous save data, the money and the mask are not returned since they were in an area where they were not saved, and therefore are lost.

 

 

 

Correct.

 

 

 

When putting something up for a trade, the server will delete the item in your inventory, and put the same item in the trade window, which serves as sort of a temporary bank. If the item was not in the inventory at the time of the roll back, then Runescape didn't know it existed. JaGeX needs to add trades to roll backs, it wouldn't be difficult.

 

 

 

 

Previously it duped items as the events happened the other way round aka the item was spawned to playerb before it was deleted from playera

 

 

 

That's not how the dupe worked....

 

 

 

A packet was sent to the server to trade a phat, the server didn't make a check to see if the person had a phat in the first place so it just took a non existent phat out of player A's inventory and put a phat in the trade screen.

 

 

 

Something similar happened with banker killing. The regular client did not have a right click attack option for bankers, so the player would send a packet to the server to attack the banker. JaGeX hadn't caught up with packet sending so they didn't make a check to see if the NPC was attackable or not.

[dberg20]

I'm all happy, I died yesterday night and lost full black elegant, black cav, glory, fury, ~3M cash, and over 100K willows yesterday when I was in world 1 buying willows, and since the rollback I have it all again.

 

 

 

I just realized that this could mean my items were duped with whoever got it. :D :D :D :D :D

[anonymous1234]

thank guthix i haven't been on in the past 2 days. i was going to spin 10k flax but thankfully i went to the beach inatead :pray:

[Bobbington]

why was there a rollback? there must have been a serious problem for them to do a rollback. They didn't do a rollback even during the falador massacre and I thought they would have then so it must have been something very serious :?

 

 

 

why would they rollback then? 30 or 40 people who lost items in the massacre would get their stuff, but thousands of other players would have lost things during the rollback.

 

 

 

God... I can't imagine frustration that came if someone beat jad then got rolled back...

 

 

 

I belive Jagex have only ever actually done a roll back on purpose once, what happned today was a server crash.

 

 

 

There are 8 login servers for the game every player is on one of these servers every 15-20 minuites it backs up each group of players, not all at once though as this would be too much of a big job!

 

 

 

One group is saved then 2 minuites later another one is...... etc

 

 

 

now when the server crashes it can no longer save the infomation, so it is lost, this means some players may only lose a few second of game play whilst others can lose 20mins!

 

 

 

Everything you have done in this time period is wiped for your account, if you died and lost 20mill you will get this 20mill back! HOWEVER if a player on a differt login server picked up this money, then his game was saved before the crash he also keeps the money!

 

 

 

The 20mill is esensially duped! now this is basically what happened in this case, however it was the opersite leaving people with nothing..... same prinsible differnt result :(.

 

 

 

It's very rare but it's the only time that rares can actually still come into the game! (although you will statistically lose the same amount as you gain.......)

[hellbellz]

 

At the time that the Rollback-Checkpoint saved, the guy was in the middle of a trade, with his money and the Mask in the trade window. This meant that the game decided NOT to save this data since it wasn't in the inventory or bank at the time of the save. Before the next save happened, the servers crashed. Upon reverting back to the previous save data, the money and the mask are not returned since they were in an area where they were not saved, and therefore are lost.

 

Thanks for clearing that up. I was reading all the posts wondering how he could have lost it if the game saves every 15 minutes. :)

[ugafan_2009]

why was there a rollback? there must have been a serious problem for them to do a rollback. They didn't do a rollback even during the falador massacre and I thought they would have then so it must have been something very serious :?

 

 

 

What was the Falador Massacre?

 

 

 

when a player was pking other players outside the wilderness (in falador) and the date of this bug abuse was coincidentally at june 6, 2006, also called 6\6\6.

I'm pretty sure it was 6/5/06 in America.