noble_aloof Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 i don't really feel like i'm in the right place among level 120+'s here. please exuse me if i seem ignorant. at my level, whenever someone asks me my slayer level, they will often respond with "wow thats high!" i don't have the money (to cannon) or, quite frankly, the time to get 80+ slayer. not being able to use a black mask for range is probably the most crushing blow to my slayer training. 78 slayer, i'd say, is a bit ABOVE AVERAGE. i hate saying this to higher levels, but you need to think of a time when you were low slayer. i have 71 slayer, does that make me 12 years old? i notice a lot of posters in this thread have all 99 combats. some people don't have the dedication or stats to get high slayer. i personally think that 78 is a perfect level and it shows that jagex is thinking about slayer. theres a reason nobody has gotten 200mil slayer exp yet, its because it is a hard skill to train. and, as i said before, it takes dedication. those who have worked for 90+ slayer, seriously, congratulations. its a great achievement. but, before you get your lvl95 goldmine monster that you can make hundreds of millions off of, the runescape slayer community needs a black mask that works with range. hopefully thats why this monster isn't up to par with your standards. flame me if you want, but its the truth. if you guys want a really great item that goes up to, say 40mil, you need to remember that slayer, like all skills needs to be BALANCED, not OVEREXTENDED. [size="5"][font="Georgia"][b]Staking:[/b][/font][font="Palatino Linotype"][color="#FF0000"][/color][color="#FFFF00"][/color][color="#00FF00"] 4+ mil[/color][/font] [font="Georgia"][b]Current Status:[/b][/font][font="Palatino Linotype"][color="#FF0000"][/color][color="#0000FF"] Training defense [/color][/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecardj Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 In all fairness I was f2p for a few months before I got mems which ive been for about 11 months now. Starting mems with 70s melee range and around 50-70 for the other f2p stats. so I been playing a bit longer then that. But then again its f2p and all stats are extremely slow, so I factor that to about 2 months max of mems time. I play my 4 hours or so a day, but on a few holidays i played more upwards of 8ish as I didnt have a job at that time lol. Its all about learning how to efficiently do every stat and not waste time by doing things slow or inneficient. id say my first 6 months of members werent that efficient but not horrible. If I replayed this last year with my current knowledge, id surely be alot higher ranked. In the last 6 months I basically learned alot and have really upped my game. I do have a life, but I do admit no lifing a few weeks in there, and will play normally about 4 hours a day almost every day. Which may be considered alot or not much. Depends how you look at it. But i gotta go with burke on this one, feel crummy about this update Dragon Drops: 80+ boots, 7 med, 3 skirt, 2 left half, 2 Spear, 2 2hSlayer: 30+ whips, 4 Bows, 1 Mask, 3 Granite Legs, 1 Visage (Wyverns)Notable GWD Splits: Bandos Tassets: 12, Bandos Chest: 11, Bandos Hilt: 2Proud Slayer of 99 Att/Str/Def/HP/Range/Summoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximusa Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Predictably low level again. I vote mudkip. VMeh BlogV >Miscellaneous Goals< http://www.rsbandb.com/sigs/sig108/bazzaminxer.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 78 slayer, i'd say, is a bit ABOVE AVERAGE. i hate saying this to higher levels, but you need to think of a time when you were low slayer. i have 71 slayer, does that make me 12 years old? i notice a lot of posters in this thread have all 99 combats. some people don't have the dedication or stats to get high slayer This doesn't have anything to do with our levels. I only have 86 Slayer but I support the idea of Jagex adding 90+ monsters because it makes more sense. i personally think that 78 is a perfect level and it shows that jagex is thinking about slayer. theres a reason nobody has gotten 200mil slayer exp yet, its because it is a hard skill to train. and, as i said before, it takes dedication. Slayer being hard is just another reason why there should be more rewards at the higher end of the spectrum. those who have worked for 90+ slayer, seriously, congratulations. its a great achievement. but, before you get your lvl95 goldmine monster that you can make hundreds of millions off of, the runescape slayer community needs a black mask that works with range. hopefully thats why this monster isn't up to par with your standards. flame me if you want, but its the truth. if you guys want a really great item that goes up to, say 40mil, you need to remember that slayer, like all skills needs to be BALANCED, not OVEREXTENDED. 35 Slayer monsters in the span of 3 mil xp and 2 Slayer monsters in the span of 10 mil is balanced? And you seem to think that supporting high leveled monsters automatically means we have greedy intentions. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkjakx Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Personally I'm just happy that they are making a new slayer monster. There's so much more potential for this skill that they havent released yet. I'm not quite sure what I'd name it though and I have yet to find any suggestions that have really popped at me. As for this whole 78/95 monster debate I'm kind of thinking that having a level system is a bad thing in this scenario. Think about it for a second. Everyone is complaining about the experience gap. It would probably be better to say that you can fight this monster at X experience. But that's besides the point since it doesn't work that way. I don't think people should be complaining as much as they are though just because they have put way more time into slayer than others. I don't even have 78 slayer but that doesn't make me a noob when it comes to the skill nor does that make me a 10-13 year old immature kid. Someday I think Jagex will make more high leveled content, but lets just count our blessings for right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noble_aloof Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 78 slayer, i'd say, is a bit ABOVE AVERAGE. i hate saying this to higher levels, but you need to think of a time when you were low slayer. i have 71 slayer, does that make me 12 years old? i notice a lot of posters in this thread have all 99 combats. some people don't have the dedication or stats to get high slayer This doesn't have anything to do with our levels. I only have 86 Slayer but I support the idea of Jagex adding 90+ monsters because it makes more sense. i personally think that 78 is a perfect level and it shows that jagex is thinking about slayer. theres a reason nobody has gotten 200mil slayer exp yet, its because it is a hard skill to train. and, as i said before, it takes dedication. Slayer being hard is just another reason why there should be more rewards at the higher end of the spectrum. those who have worked for 90+ slayer, seriously, congratulations. its a great achievement. but, before you get your lvl95 goldmine monster that you can make hundreds of millions off of, the runescape slayer community needs a black mask that works with range. hopefully thats why this monster isn't up to par with your standards. flame me if you want, but its the truth. if you guys want a really great item that goes up to, say 40mil, you need to remember that slayer, like all skills needs to be BALANCED, not OVEREXTENDED. 35 Slayer monsters in the span of 3 mil xp and 2 Slayer monsters in the span of 10 mil is balanced? And you seem to think that supporting high leveled monsters automatically means we have greedy intentions. :? i don't want to argue, but quite frankly a black mask for ranged should have come before dark beasts imo. [size="5"][font="Georgia"][b]Staking:[/b][/font][font="Palatino Linotype"][color="#FF0000"][/color][color="#FFFF00"][/color][color="#00FF00"] 4+ mil[/color][/font] [font="Georgia"][b]Current Status:[/b][/font][font="Palatino Linotype"][color="#FF0000"][/color][color="#0000FF"] Training defense [/color][/font][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punitive_D Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 This little scenario may help some understand why what Jagex is doing is rational. This is not a true story -- it's just an illustration. Imagine that Jagex started the slayer skill with the idea of adding higher level monsters as players trained the skill up. Imagine that it was very hard to train, so that most players trained it slowly. Imagine further that there are 100 players. On day 1 everyone has one monster on which to train. Soon, Jagex adds another. Imagine that most players train at roughly the same speed. But there is one no-lifer who quickly gets to 99 slayer. So imagine with me that the overwhelming majority of players when the no-lifer reaches 99 have slayer levels around fifty or so. Imagine further that Jagex has by then added several slayer monsters from levels 3 through 60. Now they're thinking about another. Ninety-nine players want a monster a level 70. One player wants a monster at level 99. Would it be rational for Jagex to add the monster at 70? I think so, and most, I think, would agree. Now I know that the real situation is not exactly like my imagined scenario, but it's enough like it to make the point. If you can understand why it would be rational for Jagex to add the level 70 monster in my imagined scenario, then you should at least be able to understand why they have done what they have done with this new monster, even if you still don't like it. Honestly, the number of players with slayer levels above 90 is relatively tiny. It is a very exclusive club. Congratulations to those of you who belong. I am sure that it has paid off for you and will pay off again at some point down the road. But don't let your own narrow self-interest blind you to the greater good of the broader community. Jagex knows what it's doing because it has to make everyone happy. They're going to let that one guy hang out at 99 slayer with no new monster for a time while others slowly catch up. Slayer is a relatively new skill. The overwhelming majority of players don't burn through levels. Most play (like I do) a few hours here and there. Jagex is developing this skill for most players, not only for the hard core players. If we paid for runescape by the hour, I guarantee you things would be different -- Jagex would cater to you guys who play (and pay for) 50+ hours per week. But since we all pay the same, Jagex pays no more attention to you than it does to the rest of us paying customers, and there are a lot more of us. It's as simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squisher_33 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 This little scenario may help some understand why what Jagex is doing is rational. This is not a true story -- it's just an illustration. Imagine that Jagex started the slayer skill with the idea of adding higher level monsters as players trained the skill up. Imagine that it was very hard to train, so that most players trained it slowly. Imagine further that there are 100 players. On day 1 everyone has one monster on which to train. Soon, Jagex adds another. Imagine that most players train at roughly the same speed. But there is one no-lifer who quickly gets to 99 slayer. So imagine with me that the overwhelming majority of players when the no-lifer reaches 99 have slayer levels around fifty or so. Imagine further that Jagex has by then added several slayer monsters from levels 3 through 60. Now they're thinking about another. Ninety-nine players want a monster a level 70. One player wants a monster at level 99. Would it be rational for Jagex to add the monster at 70? I think so, and most, I think, would agree. Now I know that the real situation is not exactly like my imagined scenario, but it's enough like it to make the point. If you can understand why it would be rational for Jagex to add the level 70 monster in my imagined scenario, then you should at least be able to understand why they have done what they have done with this new monster, even if you still don't like it. Honestly, the number of players with slayer levels above 90 is relatively tiny. It is a very exclusive club. Congratulations to those of you who belong. I am sure that it has paid off for you and will pay off again at some point down the road. But don't let your own narrow self-interest blind you to the greater good of the broader community. Jagex knows what it's doing because it has to make everyone happy. They're going to let that one guy hang out at 99 slayer with no new monster for a time while others slowly catch up. Slayer is a relatively new skill. The overwhelming majority of players don't burn through levels. Most play (like I do) a few hours here and there. Jagex is developing this skill for most players, not only for the hard core players. If we paid for runescape by the hour, I guarantee you things would be different. Jagex would cater do you guys who play (and pay for) 50+ hours per week. But since we all pay the same, Jagex pays no more attention to you than it does to the rest of us paying customers, and there are a lot more of us. It's as simple as that. spacing is your friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badphooeybad Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 spacing is your friend He used plenty of spacing, it's called using paragraphs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punitive_D Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 spacing is your friend Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I gotta say, I'll just wait for it to happen first. I just wonder if they'll require any kind of specific slaying equipment. Like a harpoon? That'd be sort of funny. You know, creatures like that stay in the water to lure prey in, so you'd have to go up to the shore of the pool and drag them back out.... Anyway, hopefully the equipment will have some sort of use rather than being another joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsanity Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 78 slayer, i'd say, is a bit ABOVE AVERAGE. i hate saying this to higher levels, but you need to think of a time when you were low slayer. i have 71 slayer, does that make me 12 years old? i notice a lot of posters in this thread have all 99 combats. some people don't have the dedication or stats to get high slayer This doesn't have anything to do with our levels. I only have 86 Slayer but I support the idea of Jagex adding 90+ monsters because it makes more sense. i personally think that 78 is a perfect level and it shows that jagex is thinking about slayer. theres a reason nobody has gotten 200mil slayer exp yet, its because it is a hard skill to train. and, as i said before, it takes dedication. Slayer being hard is just another reason why there should be more rewards at the higher end of the spectrum. those who have worked for 90+ slayer, seriously, congratulations. its a great achievement. but, before you get your lvl95 goldmine monster that you can make hundreds of millions off of, the runescape slayer community needs a black mask that works with range. hopefully thats why this monster isn't up to par with your standards. flame me if you want, but its the truth. if you guys want a really great item that goes up to, say 40mil, you need to remember that slayer, like all skills needs to be BALANCED, not OVEREXTENDED. 35 Slayer monsters in the span of 3 mil xp and 2 Slayer monsters in the span of 10 mil is balanced? And you seem to think that supporting high leveled monsters automatically means we have greedy intentions. :? i don't want to argue, but quite frankly a black mask for ranged should have come before dark beasts imo. And what about a black mask for magic? You're telling us we're biased and yet you're the one that SPECIFICALLY wants a black mask for ranged. Well we SPECIFICALLY want a level 95+ slayer monster. I see no difference whatsoever, and to be honest, the dark beast was released when less than 3,000 people had 90 slayer. Now, over 4,000 people have NINETY-NINE slayer. We are far overdue for a higher level monster. |2,300+ Total|138 Combat|12 Lvl 99 Skills|99 Slayer| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zierro Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Would it be rational for Jagex to add the monster at 70? I think so, and most, I think, would agree. Now I know that the real situation is not exactly like my imagined scenario, but it's enough like it to make the point. If you can understand why it would be rational for Jagex to add the level 70 monster in my imagined scenario, then you should at least be able to understand why they have done what they have done with this new monster, even if you still don't like it. No, why does the number of players have anything to do with it? Are you saying that because there are more people with 99 Range than 99 Magic that this justifies Jagex making more Ranged updates? I believe we went over this pages ago. Plus, you speak as if you already have the majority on your side. I am not a high leveled Slayer, but I support high leveled updates. Maybe the majority of Runescape would prefer to have a 90-99 monster rather than a 78. One more thing... We're not talking about 1 level 99 Slayer. We're talking about the thousands of 90+ Slayers. Plus it's a challenge to get that high so a reward is definitely necessary - any reward... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakolord7 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 This sounds good. I wonder if its the only new monster they're adding at this time. Join Future Update News! The longest running update speculation thread on the RSOF, currently on its 24 EditionQFC 16-17-671-59680498Thanks to Killerwat for the sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian5kamikaze Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Lame... I'm only 85 slayer and I was hoping for something maybe 87 or even 95 lol. Oh well I guess, I'll probably make a huge profit for a week unless there are only a few creatures and 20 people camping. Quit. PM me if you play The Conduit to exchange friend codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordwarior Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I don't really care what slayer level the monster will be. It's one monster, that is likely to have a item that everyone will crowd to when they first come out, making most wait. I just don't get how people don't get that Jagex doesn't want to release high end content yet.....they've said it plenty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian5kamikaze Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 I just don't get how people don't get that Jagex doesn't want to release high end content yet.....they've said it plenty. That doesn't make high levels want more content any less. Quit. PM me if you play The Conduit to exchange friend codes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mister_moocky Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 New Slayer Monster Imformation. Stop typing with your mouth full :lol: Anywho, I'm hoping for some cool new mage gear :thumbup: quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 And what about a black mask for magic? You're telling us we're biased and yet you're the one that SPECIFICALLY wants a black mask for ranged. Well we SPECIFICALLY want a level 95+ slayer monster. I see no difference whatsoever, and to be honest, the dark beast was released when less than 3,000 people had 90 slayer. Now, over 4,000 people have NINETY-NINE slayer. We are far overdue for a higher level monster. Your argument is flawed. Dark bows came out as a result of the Impling minigame http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... cle_id=418 not because 3000 people had 90 slayer at that time. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirk4slayer Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Ok, did anyone else think it looked like the fish from the Like a Boss video by The Lonely Island? I mean look at the vid. [yt] [/yt] 1:14-1:16 I knew I'd seen it somewhere before! Chuck Norris doesn't ever need a compass; he randomly points somewhere and north goes there in order not to anger him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiempie Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 dragon pickaxe is a possibility RSN: Lostfaith007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 dragon pickaxe is a possibility Nah they'll add a staff, new mask or something magic/ranged based. They don't want be people to moan it should have a reward from the new dwarf quest line, plus it keeps people interested in that quest line just in case it does release it. 58 was a cave horrors so maybe 78 will be a x colour mask for magic/range. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 12 pages og discussing back and forth if 78 slayer is a low level, when all jagex wanted was name suggestions. Scary. :? ........::::: Rainy's YouTube Channel - Rainy's Twitter - Rainy's Facebook - Rainy's DeviantArt - Rainy's Tumblr - Rainy's Tip.It Profile :::::......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterknowitall Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Why should Slayer get something 90+ while other, older skills remain the same as before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky44 Posted May 22, 2009 Share Posted May 22, 2009 Why should Slayer get something 90+ while other, older skills remain the same as before? Cause slayer is a [bleep] to train, and the highest req for a new monster is 90. ~7M exp of killing the same thing, over and over, gets old fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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