Quyneax Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Elias is gaining very little summoning xp for being at crawlers, scrolls do give a little bit of xp. 19 xp gained some 6 hours ago, that's all. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Elias is gaining very little summoning xp for being at crawlers, scrolls do give a little bit of xp. 19 xp gained some 6 hours ago, that's all.Dno about the summoning xp, maybe scrolls used by the helmet don't give any. Othwerise, his xp gains show around 3 hours at crawlers. On average, the total xp gained there should be around 470k an hour, including effigies(effigy rate over 70k kills has been seen to be 1/810). First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Scrolls in the helmet do not give xp. He could have gotten 19xp from 4 titan pouches but his runetrack shows he got 414xp today which isn't possible to get with titan pouches/scrolls (4.9xp) There isn't much else he could be doing gaining cb xp and summoning xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amethyst_Gem Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 84*4.9 = 411.61 ent in farm run = 1.6 Total = 413.2 which could round up to 414 That said, 84 steel titans sounds like a ridiculously large number... So maybe he did get some summon xp from scrolls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Well the point of the summoning xp was mainly to show he apparently doesn't manually scroll, which I think lowers your kph? But I guess he started scrolling if he's gaining more xp now. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 84*4.9 = 411.61 ent in farm run = 1.6 Total = 413.2 which could round up to 414 That said, 84 steel titans sounds like a ridiculously large number... So maybe he did get some summon xp from scrollsFor me(having only done crawlers for summoning xp this month) i have oner 20k summoning xp for around 28 hours at crawlers. Clearly, he isn't using enough scrolls. That said, the number of times you can manually scroll there is limited and doing it too much lowers dps. For me the numbers are around 140-260 for manual-helmet scrolls. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 84*4.9 = 411.61 ent in farm run = 1.6 Total = 413.2 which could round up to 414 That said, 84 steel titans sounds like a ridiculously large number... So maybe he did get some summon xp from scrollsFor me(having only done crawlers for summoning xp this month) i have oner 20k summoning xp for around 28 hours at crawlers. Clearly, he isn't using enough scrolls. That said, the number of times you can manually scroll there is limited and doing it too much lowers dps. For me the numbers are around 140-260 for manual-helmet scrolls.Why would doing it too much lower your dps? Also, to refill helmet, just be very quick so you don't die from smoke? A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 You can only activate scrolls from the helmet if you have enough special points left, but using them doesn't drain special. So you have to take care to never actually empty your special bar but otherwise spec as much as possible. For the helmet, you do have to be quick :P. You could bring a second of course (required for spectres/banshees, but you don't camp those). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leik Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 84*4.9 = 411.61 ent in farm run = 1.6 Total = 413.2 which could round up to 414 That said, 84 steel titans sounds like a ridiculously large number... So maybe he did get some summon xp from scrollsFor me(having only done crawlers for summoning xp this month) i have oner 20k summoning xp for around 28 hours at crawlers. Clearly, he isn't using enough scrolls. That said, the number of times you can manually scroll there is limited and doing it too much lowers dps. For me the numbers are around 140-260 for manual-helmet scrolls.Why would doing it too much lower your dps? Also, to refill helmet, just be very quick so you don't die from smoke?Because the scrolls in your helm can't activate if you don't have any special summ points left. Think Steel titan scrolls use 20 points, so you can manually scroll 2 times, then let it refill to 60 again while the helm still keeps activating (Without using any points). LIVERPOOL WILL WIN THE PREMIER LEAGUE THIS SEASON. [01:24:34] CJ Hunnicutt: it takes skill to be that [bleep]ing stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslan Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Could also use spirit cape for heavy duty camping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Could also use spirit cape for heavy duty camping.Spirit cape would give you a reduction of 20%, e.g. 9.6 instead of 12 special points per scroll. Since you get a full special bar every two minutes, you get 30*60 = 1800 or 150 scrolls per hour, which would go up to 180. If you get 150 helmet scrolls, that's 1/10th more titan dps. The titan is something like 10-15% of your overall dps (note I never actually used it, this is going by Vex's example) so you'd get maybe 1% more kills per hour, losing 12 prayer bonus (or the max/comp cape, which would hurt more). If you use fury/proselyte you have 18 versus 30 prayer bonus which is 30/48 and 30/60th drainrate, or 5/8 versus 4/8. If you say banking/hr is proportional to prayer drain, you have to bank 1 additional time in x hours (x being the time you do 4 trips with sw cape in, could be 8 titans long). So if you can bank within 1% of the time it takes you to do 4 trips with sw cape, it'd be worth using a spirit cape instead. Not taking into account the use of fractional titans. Pretty sure this math is inconclusive but I was doing it anyway. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 Could also use spirit cape for heavy duty camping.When even 6 stab and prayer are more significant(inventory space is crucial), would you really expect someone to give up comp cape for that? Also, spirit cape only works for manual scrolls, so the increase would be highly insignificant. Yeah, it really is that bad. By the figures enaid provided, the kph increase from spirit cape is just 10(compared to no cape/sw cape). First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I posted that, went to get a drink and suddenly realized that it should be 187.5 scrolls (25% increase in amount of scrolls). I am dissapointed, xpx, I expected you to see that :P. OT: Yes the spirit cape seems like a major hassle (increases number of clicks and titan idle time). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalFarm Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Hey guys, I'm CrystalFarm! I've been reading this thread for a bit and I've decided that I want to start contributing. I was slaying aberrant spectres last night and as soon as I completed my task and picked up my cannon, Elias turned up but hopped worlds even though I said my task was done. >_<Also, he was wearing proselyte instead of bandos. So I think he might be training slayer now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfkScape Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Hey guys, I'm CrystalFarm! I've been reading this thread for a bit and I've decided that I want to start contributing. I was slaying aberrant spectres last night and as soon as I completed my task and picked up my cannon, Elias turned up but hopped worlds even though I said my task was done. >_<Also, he was wearing proselyte instead of bandos. So I think he might be training slayer now.He has gained no slayer xp this week thoughDunno why he hopped but crawlers are right next to spectres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tama Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Well looks like Drumgun isn't getting back into WC like the 1-2 days after 200m Fletch suggested. He could be in some trouble to continue his "first to" title with #11 if he continues as he is. Although as past exp gains have proven, you can hardly put him past pulling off a fast one when the time arises. Also, unless Telmo turns back to Herblore, it'll be a while before an 11th 200m is reached, as Suomi's next is a few months off (Def/Slayer/Range?) and I imagine that he will be getting a few around the same time, and given the apparent money issues that Drumgun's mentioned in past posts, he might not be able to bang out some buyables to keep up his 200m record. My Youtube #37 to achieve the trimmed Completionist cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrystalFarm Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Oh, he must have been going to crawlers then, that explains it.He probably didn't hop then, I guess. I just figured that seeing as he was standing at aberrant specs for a few seconds and then he was gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13d Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 ^ moar vids plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dheginsea Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I wonder, was drumgun keeping fletch and wc at around 150mil to act as insurance for the getting 10th/11th spot, and he just will train them as a last resort. I once met a man named Jesus at a Home Depot. Is this the Messiah returned at last? And i once beat someone named Jesus in a chess game. Does that mean I'm smarter than the messiah?BOW TO THE NEW MESSIAH Maybe a president who didn't believe our soldiers were going to heaven, might be a little less willing to get them killed. ~ Bill MaherBarrows drops: 2 Karil's Coifs (on double drop day) 92,150th person to 99 defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tama Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I wonder, was drumgun keeping fletch and wc at around 150mil to act as insurance for the getting 10th/11th spot, and he just will train them as a last resort. Yea seems like it, cause he was mainly fishing and then raced to 200m Fletch when Telmo was working on pray. Although for #11, 48m WC exp will take a while longer. That being said, as I mentioned in a previous post, unless Telmo goes back to Herblore, there's no real hurry for Drumgun to WC just yet. My Youtube #37 to achieve the trimmed Completionist cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_R Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Ya it doesn't make much sense to save a kind of slow skill for insurance of the 11th 200m when it's 48m away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13d Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 I believe he wanted to keep woodcutting open for the effigy combo back when he planned to kill tormented demons to afford 200M Prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dheginsea Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 That would make a lot of sense. I once met a man named Jesus at a Home Depot. Is this the Messiah returned at last? And i once beat someone named Jesus in a chess game. Does that mean I'm smarter than the messiah?BOW TO THE NEW MESSIAH Maybe a president who didn't believe our soldiers were going to heaven, might be a little less willing to get them killed. ~ Bill MaherBarrows drops: 2 Karil's Coifs (on double drop day) 92,150th person to 99 defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superheat Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 Grats to our fellow poster "Lemar" on 200M prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaindash Posted June 17, 2011 Share Posted June 17, 2011 well you never now with drumgunnow he is going kinda slowbut when its really neededhe gets the fastest xp gains ever Crazy Captain Productions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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