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player 1, burning willow logs perfectly.

player 2. burning magic logs perfectly.

 

both players are efficient, cost and amount of xp has nothing to do with it.

 

sorry if this has no relevance i didnt read every post.

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I think that using the best possible resources that are available to YOU and skilling in your own pace that YOU are capable of doing is efficient. For example I can train like Zarfot if I wanted but I slack off a bit because I want to. You can call me inefficient but you can just take a look at runetracker and my xp gains which I manage while attending high school every day. I still get good xp/hr and I honestly have never obsessed about it as some people in this thread do.

I think the problem here is that you can call multiple ways efficient, but one is more efficient then the other. For example burning yew logs and magic logs can both be efficient but burning magic logs is more efficient then yew logs.

 

Gratz to suomi on 3,5B :) will take a while to 4B if suomi continues to do crawlers :P


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I think that using the best possible resources that are available to YOU and skilling in your own pace that YOU are capable of doing is efficient. For example I can train like Zarfot if I wanted but I slack off a bit because I want to. You can call me inefficient but you can just take a look at runetracker and my xp gains which I manage while attending high school every day. I still get good xp/hr and I honestly have never obsessed about it as some people in this thread do.

I think the problem here is that you can call multiple ways efficient, but one is more efficient then the other. For example burning yew logs and magic logs can both be efficient but burning magic logs is more efficient then yew logs.

 

Gratz to suomi on 3,5B :) will take a while to 4B if suomi continues to do crawlers :P

 

It's more efficient if you have a good money making method. If someone who is poor and can only make like 1m/hr then it wouldn't be smart for him to burn mage logs.


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player 1, burning willow logs perfectly.

player 2. burning magic logs perfectly.

 

both players are efficient, cost and amount of xp has nothing to do with it.

 

sorry if this has no relevance i didnt read every post.

Also efficiency has an other problem, if your goal is most xp per hour, player 2 is more efficient. But if your goal is to DIY FM (and have already 200m wcing) and you don't have magic logs but do have willow logs player 1 would be more efficient.

So efficiency is based on what goal you want to achieve the most quick/cost-less etc. way


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PAGE WITH WALLS OF TEXT CRITS YOU FOR 10000000K

 

on topic: Congratulations @Dragonseance on 170M slayer xp!


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[spoiler=Things related to gemeos2 are off topic and therefore should be put in spoiler tags]http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/358f8m/

 

lol, but as the first post indicates, there should be no posts at all like that ;) Also Gemeos you feelings do not give you the rights to spam this topic with your 200m party and other off-topic pictures.


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SUOMI is only 1m xp away from the 358m lead on #2 in xp now.

Gertjaars has had this record since april 23 2009.

 

Go snatch that record now!


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player 1, burning willow logs perfectly.

player 2. burning magic logs perfectly.

 

both players are efficient, cost and amount of xp has nothing to do with it.

 

sorry if this has no relevance i didnt read every post.

Also efficiency has an other problem, if your goal is most xp per hour, player 2 is more efficient. But if your goal is to DIY FM (and have already 200m wcing) and you don't have magic logs but do have willow logs player 1 would be more efficient.

So efficiency is based on what goal you want to achieve the most quick/cost-less etc. way

But aren't we discussing 200M in all skills here?

so if you aren't efficient in that direction you aren't efficient for this thread.


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player 1, burning willow logs perfectly.

player 2. burning magic logs perfectly.

 

both players are efficient, cost and amount of xp has nothing to do with it.

 

sorry if this has no relevance i didnt read every post.

Also efficiency has an other problem, if your goal is most xp per hour, player 2 is more efficient. But if your goal is to DIY FM (and have already 200m wcing) and you don't have magic logs but do have willow logs player 1 would be more efficient.

So efficiency is based on what goal you want to achieve the most quick/cost-less etc. way

But aren't we discussing 200M in all skills here?

so if you aren't efficient in that direction you aren't efficient for this thread.

We are discussing 200M xp in all skills here indeed, but not everyones goal is to get it the quickest way, even then it is not even the goal to many top players. We are discussing when, how and who will reach 200M xp in all skills and also the top 15. So while discussing about things being the most efficient to reach 200M xp in all skills is not wrong, it is wrong to assume that efficiency means only that and that other ways of being efficient should not be talked about here. For example it would be efficient to not do castle wars at all if you want to reach 200M xp in all skills. But if you are going for the trimmed completionist cape it could be more efficient to do castle wars first (if effigies would not exist and you don't need to kill monsters for money).


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If your goal is DIY FM, then your goal is to be inefficient at gaining exp in Runescape. You may be "efficiently" achieving your goal. However you are not being "efficient".

 

Being "efficient", particularly in this thread, is not that subjective. If you can only make 1m/hr, you are being inefficient in your money making, and you will remain inefficient in your money making until you are acquiring money at the maximum possible rate. (therefore all moneymaking is inefficient, just spinning bowstrings is far more inefficient than receiving 1m+ donations)

 

If you are not making the fastest possible experience gains, you are being at least partially inefficient, on some level.

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If your goal is DIY FM, then your goal is to be inefficient at gaining exp in Runescape. You may be "efficiently" achieving your goal. However you are not being "efficient".

 

Being "efficient", particularly in this thread, is not that subjective. If you can only make 1m/hr, you are being inefficient in your money making, and you will remain inefficient in your money making until you are acquiring money at the maximum possible rate. (therefore all moneymaking is inefficient, just spinning bowstrings is far more inefficient than receiving 1m+ donations)

 

If you are not making the fastest possible experience gains, you are being at least partially inefficient, on some level.

That still is about that you take gaining xp as fast as possible as being efficient. As described in my post above that is not the only type of efficiency we are talking about. Efficiency is indeed not subjective, but it depends on your goal. And I think getting the trim completionist cape would be the goal of many top players but is not efficient if you are only going for 200M xp in all skills.

 

Also your last statement, you can be efficient with 180k xp/h in a skill and with 190k xp/h but the one with 190k xp/h would be more efficient. Otherwise I think no-one in runescape would be efficient because it is nearly impossible for most skills to get the highest xp rates for a long time.


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I know that this is off-topic, but I have to ask this: I've tried to log into runescape for 10 minutes now, and it only logs in for like 1 sec then it logs me out. What is happening?

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Efficiency is the fastest way to take player X from state A to state B the fastest way possible. This includes the ability of player X to perform a given method (not being a fast clicker, having only one hand or whatever).

 

People who have 30b+ going for 200m xp in all skills typically define state A as their current state, and B as the state where they have 200m xp in all skills. This means it's more efficient for them to burn all that gp.

 

If state B was defined as "200m xp in all skills WITHOUT affecting bank, dungeoneering binds or any sort of additional token/item storage you might have" then it's more efficient to hunt glacors for money and effigies and use that to pay for buyables.

 

Burning willows from 30 to 99 firemaking is inefficient. Even if you burn them perfectly. The jadinko lair is far superior.


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Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

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Efficiency is the fastest way to take player X from state A to state B the fastest way possible. This includes the ability of player X to perform a given method (not being a fast clicker, having only one hand or whatever).

 

People who have 30b+ going for 200m xp in all skills typically define state A as their current state, and B as the state where they have 200m xp in all skills. This means it's more efficient for them to burn all that gp.

 

If state B was defined as "200m xp in all skills WITHOUT affecting bank, dungeoneering binds or any sort of additional token/item storage you might have" then it's more efficient to hunt glacors for money and effigies and use that to pay for buyables.

 

Burning willows from 30 to 99 firemaking is inefficient. Even if you burn them perfectly. The jadinko lair is far superior.

If I look at your other statementst burning willows from 30 to 99 fm is efficient if your goal is to burn 300k willow logs or something like that ;)


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I think that using the best possible resources that are available to YOU and skilling in your own pace that YOU are capable of doing is efficient. For example I can train like Zarfot if I wanted but I slack off a bit because I want to. You can call me inefficient but you can just take a look at runetracker and my xp gains which I manage while attending high school every day. I still get good xp/hr and I honestly have never obsessed about it as some people in this thread do.

 

You don't understand efficiency, or atleast not what efficiency should be. The defenition of efficiency related to 200M all skills will be: 'Losing no ticks with the fastest methods existing, neglecting money issues since there is infinite money.' This 'infinite money' is a overexaggerating obviously, but you can come as close as you can get ('over the border'-way would be to simply buy 100B in irl cash, but more realistic would be donations, dicing, flipping). So, Makaveli_93's 82M-month could be a 100M-month in the same amount of time if you were efficient (not losing ticks etc., more I can't tell about you since I don't know how you Slay).

 

So, if one decides to do train Prayer with D Bones because he doesn't value his time over a certain amount which would make training with F Bones more efficient over D Bones, he still is NOT efficient! Why? Because he doesn't make money by dicing or flipping (or he doesn't know how to do it properly).

 

And if somebody is disabled (shaky hands or w/e) and loses every other tick a tick, eventhough he trains with the fastest methods available, he is not efficient. Can't help it; efficiency is objective.

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@Wisse: That's true :P. When saying something is inefficient it's usually assumed the goal is the 99 and not the burning itself.

 

@Noble_Mafia: Losing ticks refers to being skilled, not to being efficient, as I said before (unless you choose to lose them). Your point that moneymakers are efficient or not is a bit self-evident of course but quite relevant. It also shows how efficient Suomi really is, donations being the gp/hr they are.


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99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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http://puu.sh/7Wlt

 

I was right that she started in 2004.

 

inb4 no it might not be true because if you canceled it earlier it doesn't count. Seriously what are the odds that she had members before that L.


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@Noble_Mafia: Losing ticks refers to being skilled, not to being efficient, as I said before (unless you choose to lose them). Your point that moneymakers are efficient or not is a bit self-evident of course but quite relevant. It also shows how efficient Suomi really is, donations being the gp/hr they are.

 

We are talking about being efficient time-wise, and since ticks are time I don't see how ticks (or losing them) don't refer to efficiency? Maybe I'm missing something, English isn't my native language.

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Wanna stop talking about ticks ffs... I just verified when Green started playing, this is far more important.


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I think that using the best possible resources that are available to YOU and skilling in your own pace that YOU are capable of doing is efficient. For example I can train like Zarfot if I wanted but I slack off a bit because I want to. You can call me inefficient but you can just take a look at runetracker and my xp gains which I manage while attending high school every day. I still get good xp/hr and I honestly have never obsessed about it as some people in this thread do.

Thats rather what I said, efficiency itself isn't subjective, but to what extent a person wishes to be efficient (due to fun/irl sustanability etc) is.

 

@Noble_Mafia. Negating money would be true if all players on this thread had infinite (or at least enough) cash to always train the optimal way. But I don't think they all do, although I could be wrong. As such, it would still need to be factored in at least some circumstances.


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@Noble_Mafia: Losing ticks refers to being skilled, not to being efficient, as I said before (unless you choose to lose them). Your point that moneymakers are efficient or not is a bit self-evident of course but quite relevant. It also shows how efficient Suomi really is, donations being the gp/hr they are.

 

We are talking about being efficient time-wise, and since ticks are time I don't see how ticks (or losing them) don't refer to efficiency? Maybe I'm missing something, English isn't my native language.

If you are incapable of not losing ticks you're not being inefficient. If you choose to lose ticks (e.g. afk) then that is inefficient.


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99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011)

99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012)

99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012)

99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013)

99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013)

Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring

Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace

30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted

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[spoiler=Things related to gemeos2 are off topic and therefore should be put in spoiler tags]http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/358f8m/

 

 

I didn't teleport "to show how efficient" I am. I don't really care about what people think about me. All the posts trying to flame me just make me lol. I usually quote to my friends so we can lol together.

 

You have no idea who I am, so please don't talk like you do. I knew it was offtopic that why I wrote "Warning:..." at the begin of the post. I didn't see any moderator deleting it so I don't know who you are to judge that.

 

If you don't want to discuss me, if you think I won't ever get my goal, that's fine for me. Just avoid these posts, and I'm not only talking for you here.

 

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[spoiler=Things related to gemeos2 are off topic and therefore should be put in spoiler tags]http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/358f8m/

 

 

I didn't teleport "to show how efficient" I am. I don't really care about what people think about me. All the posts trying to flame me just make me lol. I usually quote to my friends so we can lol together.

 

You have no idea who I am, so please don't talk like you do. I knew it was offtopic that why I wrote "Warning:..." at the begin of the post. I didn't see any moderator deleting it so I don't know who you are to judge that.

 

Yeah, you did it to copy Suomi L.


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