200M in all Skills

[NoHopeLeft]

WTF Frank (carcass) is in the top 30 now? LOL I used to skill and chat with him- Still have him on friends list. Didn't know he got so high so fast- he wasn't even maxed 2 years ago.

He's in TMOA.

What does that have to do with 200m all skills?

[Thai_tong]

WTF Frank (carcass) is in the top 30 now? LOL I used to skill and chat with him- Still have him on friends list. Didn't know he got so high so fast- he wasn't even maxed 2 years ago.

He's in TMOA.

Subtle advertising there.

[Matt258]

If Suomi was in a T7 Clan & they have T7 Skill Plots then he could Save Gp (& Time?) for WC, Craft, FM. Also could get the 45% being helped getting half Cap limit each week (after 3).

 

It would be neet to see everyone in the Top 20 with what 200M Skills they all have in common.

[Gemeos2]

If Suomi was in a T7 Clan & they have T7 Skill Plots then he could Save Gp (& Time?) for WC, Craft, FM. Also could get the 45% being helped getting half Cap limit each week (after 3).

 

Just... Nop.

[AfkScape]

It would be neet to see everyone in the Top 20 with what 200M Skills they all have in common.

I'll do this just for shits and giggles

 

Cooking: 18

Suomi, Jake, Elias, Elvis, Jdelacroix, Drumgun, Telmo, Allar, Almostlost, Kingduffy, Paulrat3, Pope712, Paperbag, Da Broman1, Green098, Zarfot, Chilly

 

Fletching: 17

Suomi, Jake, Elias, Elvis, Jdelacroix, Drumgun, Telmo, Allar, Almostlost, Kingduffy, Paulrat3, Pope712, Paperbag, Da Broman1, Green098, Zarfot

 

Prayer: 11

Suomi, Jake, Elias, Elvis, Jdelacroix, Drumgun, Telmo, Almostlost, Kngkyle, Paperbag, Zarfot

 

Dungeoneering: 9

Suomi, Jake, Elias, Elvis, Jdelacroix, Telmo, Almostlost, Green098, Dragonseance

 

Crafting: 9

Elias, Elvis, Jdelacroix, Drumgun, Telmo, Allar, Paulrat3, Paperbag, Zarfot

 

Ranged: 9

Suomi, Jake, Elias, Elvis, Drumgun, Paulrat3, Paperbag, Green098, Chilly

 

Firemaking: 8

Jake, Elias, Jdelacroix, Telmo, Allar, Paperbag, Da Broman1, Green098

 

Strength: 8

Suomi, Jake, Drumgun, Telmo, Allar, Paulrat3, Pope712, Chilly

 

Constitution: 8

Suomi, Jake, Elias, Elvis, Drumgun, Paulrat3, Pope712, Chilly

 

Herblore: 8

Suomi, Elias, Elvis, Jdelacroix, Almostlost, Kngkyle, Paperbag, Zarfot

 

Construction: 8

Suomi, Elias, Telmo, Allar, Almostlost, Paperbag, Zarfot

 

Thieving: 6

Jake, Elias, Elvis, Telmo, Paperbag, Green098

 

Magic: 6

Suomi, Jake, Elias, Drumgun, Paulrat3, Chilly

 

Attack: 5

Jake, Elias, Drumgun, Da Broman1, Chilly

 

Defence: 4

Suomi, Jake, Drumgun, Almostlost

 

Hunter: 4

Jake, Drumgun, Telmo, Chilly

 

Slayer: 4

Suomi, Jake, Chilly, Dragonseance

 

Farming: 3

Jdelacroix, Paperbag, Dapledo

 

Summoning: 3

Suomi, Jake, Drumgun

 

Woodcutting: 2

Jake, Kngkyle

 

Fishing: 2

Suomi, Drumgun

 

Smithing: 2

Suomi, Jdelacroix

 

Mining: 1

Suomi

 

Agility: 1

Suomi

 

Runecrafting: 0

 

Also heres a different list I guess

 

suomi -def,str,hp,ranged,pray,magic,cook,fletch,fishing,smithing,mining,herb,agility,slayer,con,sum,dung

 

jake

att,str,def,hp,range,pray,magic,cook,wc,fletch,fm,thieving,slayer,hunter,summ,dung

 

elias

att,hp,ranged,pray,magic,cook,fletch,fm,crafting,herb,thieving,con,dung

 

elvis

att,hp,range,pray,cook,fletch,craft,herb,thieving,dung

 

jdelacroix

pray,cook,fletch,fm,craft,smith,herb,farm,con,dung

 

drumgun

att,def,str,hp,range,prayer,magic,cook,fletch,fish,craft,hunt,summ

 

telmo

str,pray,cook,fletch,fm,craft,thieving,hunt,con,dung

 

allar

str,cook,fletch,fm,craft,con

 

almostlost

def,pray,cook,fletch,herb,con,dung

 

kingduffy

cook,fletch

 

kngkyle

pray,cook,wc,fletch,herb

 

paulrat3

str,hp,range,magic,cook,fletch,craft

 

pope712

stf,hp,cook,fletch

 

paperbag

ranged,pray,cook,fletch,fm,craft,herb,thieving,farm,con

 

da broman1

att,cook,fletch,fm

 

green098

range,cook,fletch,fm,thieving,dg

 

zarfot

pray,cook,fletch,craft,herb,con

 

chilly

att,str,hp,range,magic,cook,slayer,hunter

 

dragonseance

slayer,dg

 

dapledo

farm

 

 

also dragonseance essentially has 200m fletch and cook but not actually

[DrS3]

If Suomi was in a T7 Clan & they have T7 Skill Plots then he could Save Gp (& Time?) for WC, Craft, FM. Also could get the 45% being helped getting half Cap limit each week (after 3).

 

It would be neet to see everyone in the Top 20 with what 200M Skills they all have in common.

 

The only skill plot at the citadel that is better than any other method is the Mining plot. Every other plot is slower than the fastest method, so it would be a waste of his time and obviously he has 200M Mining xp already.

[asfcjfdyitfhglh]

Is there anyone who has quit that could be 200M all by now if they hadn't?

[AfkScape]

naw cause suomi's been playing basically everyday since 07 and hes pretty efficient and he's still not there yet

other more efficient players like zarfot were pretty far behind him when they quit and i dont think they'd catch up if they did keep playing

pretty sure nobody's been closer to 200m all skills than suomi for a long time, like when gertjaars was #1 suomi was still closer back then cause he did slow skills

so yeah if suomi hasnt done it then nobody else would have either i guess unless you wanna get mad theoretical about players who stopped playing in like 06 or something

[Deletion]

I'm pretty sure if Green098 played efficiently she would have enough play hours to be 200m all skills.

[asfcjfdyitfhglh]

naw cause suomi's been playing basically everyday since 07 and hes pretty efficient and he's still not there yet

other more efficient players like zarfot were pretty far behind him when they quit and i dont think they'd catch up if they did keep playing

pretty sure nobody's been closer to 200m all skills than suomi for a long time, like when gertjaars was #1 suomi was still closer back then cause he did slow skills

so yeah if suomi hasnt done it then nobody else would have either i guess unless you wanna get mad theoretical about players who stopped playing in like 06 or something

 

Yeah I was thinking mainly Zarfot, possibly Zezima because he had taken a break and no longer plays as much

[AfkScape]

I'm pretty sure if Green098 played efficiently she would have enough play hours to be 200m all skills.

yeah

if drumgun didn't play all those castle wars games and he did c2 fishing instead of rocktails and did slayer for his combat and merched for money he'd be rly close to 200m all skills by now

i'm not hating on the way he plays btw he can do what he wants, he has said it's not his goal anyway

[LogOnBeach]

Zezima does not have what it takes for 200m all skills.

[Xensure]

naw cause suomi's been playing basically everyday since 07 and hes pretty efficient and he's still not there yet

other more efficient players like zarfot were pretty far behind him when they quit and i dont think they'd catch up if they did keep playing

pretty sure nobody's been closer to 200m all skills than suomi for a long time, like when gertjaars was #1 suomi was still closer back then cause he did slow skills

so yeah if suomi hasnt done it then nobody else would have either i guess unless you wanna get mad theoretical about players who stopped playing in like 06 or something

 

 

Zarfot would have caught him in hours left. At the pace with which Zafort was going though slayer (If someone wants to look up Suomi's slayer gains and Zarfot's and then call me out saying "Suomi was going like 45% faster than Zarfot" Keep in mind that Zarfot was using his effigies on Runecrafting). He would have benefited much more than Suomi in hours saved by effigies since he had all effigy combos open with the slower skill open as well. This isn't really an advantage in itself since that means that Suomi had these slower skills already done, but Zarfot would have been done with slayer and all combat before the effigy nerf so he could have exploited crawlers to their fullest extent. He also quit with a 36m base, that means that would have had like a 80m base by the time he was done with crawlers. I am confident Zarfot would have caught Suomi in hours left to 200m by now. I would like to say that it would be close though. We would be having a battle right now for the last 1b xp.

[Sockem]

naw cause suomi's been playing basically everyday since 07 and hes pretty efficient and he's still not there yet

other more efficient players like zarfot were pretty far behind him when they quit and i dont think they'd catch up if they did keep playing

pretty sure nobody's been closer to 200m all skills than suomi for a long time, like when gertjaars was #1 suomi was still closer back then cause he did slow skills

so yeah if suomi hasnt done it then nobody else would have either i guess unless you wanna get mad theoretical about players who stopped playing in like 06 or something

 

 

Zarfot would have caught him in hours left. At the pace with which Zafort was going though slayer (If someone wants to look up Suomi's slayer gains and Zarfot's and then call me out saying "Suomi was going like 45% faster than Zarfot" Keep in mind that Zarfot was using his effigies on Runecrafting). He would have benefited much more than Suomi in hours saved by effigies since he had all effigy combos open with the slower skill open as well. This isn't really an advantage in itself since that means that Suomi had these slower skills already done, but Zarfot would have been done with slayer and all combat before the effigy nerf so he could have exploited crawlers to their fullest extent. He also quit with a 36m base, that means that would have had like a 80m base by the time he was done with crawlers. I am confident Zarfot would have caught Suomi in hours left to 200m by now. I would like to say that it would be close though. We would be having a battle right now for the last 1b xp.

 

You're definitely overestimating Zarfot. Suomi's slaying rate wasn't 45% faster, it was 200% faster. His rate on just about every other skill is faster than Zarfot's as well. My point being that whatever advantages Zarfot may have had, he simply didn't play enough to ever overtake Suomi.

[Meetu13]

naw cause suomi's been playing basically everyday since 07 and hes pretty efficient and he's still not there yet

other more efficient players like zarfot were pretty far behind him when they quit and i dont think they'd catch up if they did keep playing

pretty sure nobody's been closer to 200m all skills than suomi for a long time, like when gertjaars was #1 suomi was still closer back then cause he did slow skills

so yeah if suomi hasnt done it then nobody else would have either i guess unless you wanna get mad theoretical about players who stopped playing in like 06 or something

 

 

Zarfot would have caught him in hours left. At the pace with which Zafort was going though slayer (If someone wants to look up Suomi's slayer gains and Zarfot's and then call me out saying "Suomi was going like 45% faster than Zarfot" Keep in mind that Zarfot was using his effigies on Runecrafting). He would have benefited much more than Suomi in hours saved by effigies since he had all effigy combos open with the slower skill open as well. This isn't really an advantage in itself since that means that Suomi had these slower skills already done, but Zarfot would have been done with slayer and all combat before the effigy nerf so he could have exploited crawlers to their fullest extent. He also quit with a 36m base, that means that would have had like a 80m base by the time he was done with crawlers. I am confident Zarfot would have caught Suomi in hours left to 200m by now. I would like to say that it would be close though. We would be having a battle right now for the last 1b xp.

 

Are you sure that open effigy combos would have made up for the hours he spent less per day than SUOMI in rs. IIRC Zarfot played for around 6 hours per day whereas SUOMI has been consistently playing at around 8-12 hours per day.

[stonewall337]

WTF Frank (carcass) is in the top 30 now? LOL I used to skill and chat with him- Still have him on friends list. Didn't know he got so high so fast- he wasn't even maxed 2 years ago.

He's in TMOA.

Subtle advertising there.

Pretty sure a goal of TMOA is to get 200m in any/all skills.

[Thorgmir]

naw cause suomi's been playing basically everyday since 07 and hes pretty efficient and he's still not there yet

other more efficient players like zarfot were pretty far behind him when they quit and i dont think they'd catch up if they did keep playing

pretty sure nobody's been closer to 200m all skills than suomi for a long time, like when gertjaars was #1 suomi was still closer back then cause he did slow skills

so yeah if suomi hasnt done it then nobody else would have either i guess unless you wanna get mad theoretical about players who stopped playing in like 06 or something

 

 

Zarfot would have caught him in hours left. At the pace with which Zafort was going though slayer (If someone wants to look up Suomi's slayer gains and Zarfot's and then call me out saying "Suomi was going like 45% faster than Zarfot" Keep in mind that Zarfot was using his effigies on Runecrafting). He would have benefited much more than Suomi in hours saved by effigies since he had all effigy combos open with the slower skill open as well. This isn't really an advantage in itself since that means that Suomi had these slower skills already done, but Zarfot would have been done with slayer and all combat before the effigy nerf so he could have exploited crawlers to their fullest extent. He also quit with a 36m base, that means that would have had like a 80m base by the time he was done with crawlers. I am confident Zarfot would have caught Suomi in hours left to 200m by now. I would like to say that it would be close though. We would be having a battle right now for the last 1b xp.

 

You're definitely overestimating Zarfot. Suomi's slaying rate wasn't 45% faster, it was 200% faster. His rate on just about every other skill is faster than Zarfot's as well. My point being that whatever advantages Zarfot may have had, he simply didn't play enough to ever overtake Suomi.

 

There's an easy way to answer this. Use a time calc on Zarfot and SUOMI on the stats they had on November 28, 2010 (Zarfot's last active day). I don't have a time calc or I'd do it myself, but I feel like it has to come down in SUOMI's favor by a lot. Zarfot's 200Ms were ALL fast buyables, without exception, while SUOMI had mining, fishing, and agility, amongst others. Those have to severely outweigh a couple buyables already done.

 

Edit: And if you're admitting that Zarfot was behind on time left, but would catch up, I say, not likely. Zarfot played efficiently, but nowhere near the hours SUOMI logs. There's just no way he'd make any relative gains.

[Moerdara]

Host Bart stopped crafting at 199.999.999. Does he allow Suomi to pass him for rank 20?

[Gemeos2]

naw cause suomi's been playing basically everyday since 07 and hes pretty efficient and he's still not there yet

other more efficient players like zarfot were pretty far behind him when they quit and i dont think they'd catch up if they did keep playing

pretty sure nobody's been closer to 200m all skills than suomi for a long time, like when gertjaars was #1 suomi was still closer back then cause he did slow skills

so yeah if suomi hasnt done it then nobody else would have either i guess unless you wanna get mad theoretical about players who stopped playing in like 06 or something

 

 

Zarfot would have caught him in hours left. At the pace with which Zafort was going though slayer (If someone wants to look up Suomi's slayer gains and Zarfot's and then call me out saying "Suomi was going like 45% faster than Zarfot" Keep in mind that Zarfot was using his effigies on Runecrafting). He would have benefited much more than Suomi in hours saved by effigies since he had all effigy combos open with the slower skill open as well. This isn't really an advantage in itself since that means that Suomi had these slower skills already done, but Zarfot would have been done with slayer and all combat before the effigy nerf so he could have exploited crawlers to their fullest extent. He also quit with a 36m base, that means that would have had like a 80m base by the time he was done with crawlers. I am confident Zarfot would have caught Suomi in hours left to 200m by now. I would like to say that it would be close though. We would be having a battle right now for the last 1b xp.

 

Even though Zarfot is a god in my eyes, I have to disagree. Zarfot played around 6 hours per day. Even with all that advantages, I extremely doubt he would even be able to creat a competition to Suomi at this time. Leave alone even be ahead of Suomi.

 

Zarfot simply didn't play enough hours but was a much better skiller than Suomi.

[Gemeos2]

There's an easy way to answer this. Use a time calc on Zarfot and SUOMI on the stats they had on November 28, 2010 (Zarfot's last active day).s.

 

I can easly make this if you guys give me stats of both players at that time. I will use the 100k slayer xp/effigy ratio and the 77750? melee xp after slayer per effigy.

[Thorgmir]

There's an easy way to answer this. Use a time calc on Zarfot and SUOMI on the stats they had on November 28, 2010 (Zarfot's last active day).s.

 

I can easly make this if you guys give me stats of both players at that time. I will use the 100k slayer xp/effigy ratio and the 77750? melee xp after slayer per effigy.

 

You'll probably have to input these manually, but you can find Zarfot's stats at that time here and SUOMI's here. Just look in the left hand column for both.

[Gemeos2]

I belive there was no urns at the time Zarfot quit?

Slayer was 100k xp/effigy.

Effigy each 77750 melee XP after slayer is done.

Barbarian Outpost was the best method for fish.

Teaks was the best method for wc.

There was no sceptre of gods for thieiving.

There was no Jadinko lair or pyrelord method.

Best summoning method was Kyatt.

 

Name - Hours - Cost

Zarfot - 11 802 - 3 354 456 065

S u o m i - 8 751 - 18 963 828 208

 

Let's assume Suomi really plays only 10 hours per day. Suomi would need 875 days with the methods at the time. Zarfot would have to play 13.4 hours per day to be able to get 200m at the same time of Suomi. Zarfot played under half of 13.4 hours, only 6 hours.

OR

Let's assume there was no free trade and Suomi would have to nex (7.5m gp/hr) to his money.

Suomi would need not only 8751 hours but 11284 hours. That would make both REALLY close. Even though, Suomi would obviously get it first since Zarfot wouldn't ever play as many hours as Suomi.

[Synthetiquette]

As for the theoretical discussion, I find it quite intriguing. Zarfot truly was an amazing player, although as previously pointed out, simply did not have enough time accrued to come close.

Edited May 19, 2012 by tripsis
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[lgr1991]

Is there anyone who has quit that could be 200M all by now if they hadn't?

N0valyfe perhaps?

[tragic news]

why do people like dragonseance and zezima stop really close to a 200m. they are making a big deal out of 200m cooking and fletching or something