tintin113 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 why do people like dragonseance and zezima stop really close to a 200m. they are making a big deal out of 200m cooking and fletching or something My guess is that, as there is so much free xp floating around in the form of SoF, Jagex's promotional events and other things, it's now inefficient to go straight to 200m in a skill, as there's a high chance of getting free xp in it some day that would be wasted if you were maxed. Maybe people want to get 200m in some skills so they have a high rank in it, but for things like Fletching and Cooking it's really no big deal. Thanks to Quarra for the awesome sig!Xbox360 Gamertag = Tintin113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemeos2 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Does anyone have a good sample of sof spin results? Those must NOT include weekends and w/e. I want to find a rate of lamps of sof, so I can put it in my calculator assuming you get 2 spins each 24 hours in normal situations. I know you get more from skilling but 2 each 24hours is better than nothing. My youtube channel with efficient skilling guides and achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luwts Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Host Bart stopped crafting at 199.999.999. Does he allow Suomi to pass him for rank 20?Host Bart hit 200m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauke Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 There are probably a fair amount of people that could've gotten 200m all *if* they continued playing. Thing is, getting 200m all is not just being efficient, it also means you have to invest (way too much) time. There are almost no people that can keep going at the rate that suomi is going and keep that up for many years. If I cared, I could have 200m all now, since I started this game more than 10 years ago. But I didn't ;) Twitter ||| Google+ ||| Facebook ||| LinkedIn ||| My very interesting weblog about science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capheraekton Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Does anyone have a good sample of sof spin results? Those must NOT include weekends and w/e. I want to find a rate of lamps of sof, so I can put it in my calculator assuming you get 2 spins each 24 hours in normal situations. I know you get more from skilling but 2 each 24hours is better than nothing.These are my spins since the April 2 update, but they do include the weekends. If the monkey items/horns/tattoos replaced other common/uncommon items instead of just being added to the list, it wouldn't affect the number of lamps received. Small Lamp 22Small Lamp (Attack) 1Small Lamp (Constitution) 3Small Lamp (Defence) 2Small Lamp (Dungeoneering) 1Small Lamp (Fishing) 2Small Lamp (Magic) 2Small Lamp (Prayer) 1Small Lamp (Ranged) 2Small Lamp (Runerafting) 1Small Lamp (Woodcutting) 1Medium Lamp 16Medium Lamp (Constitution) 1Medium Lamp (Defence) 1Medium Lamp (Dungeoneering) 3Medium Lamp (Farming) 1Medium Lamp (Firemaking) 1Medium Lamp (Fletching) 3Medium Lamp (Herblore) 1Medium Lamp (Prayer) 1Medium Lamp (Ranged) 1Medium Lamp (Runecrafting) 1Medium Lamp (Strength) 2Double Spin Ticket 13Coins X 50 57Adamant Hatchet 4Anchovy Pizza 2Barrel of Monkeys 3Cowhide X 2 4Curled Horns 1Emerald 3Gold Ore X 3 4Green D'Hide Body 2Iron Ore X 3 6Law Runes X 3 3Logs X 3 4Marauder Tatoo 1Monkey Mace 1Raw Swordfish X 2 7Raw Tuna X 5 5Rune Battleaxe 1Rune Pickaxe 2Rune Platebody 2Silver Ore X 5 2Soft Clay X 2 1Steel Arrows X 40 3Uncut Sapphire 4Yew Logs X 2 7Yew Shortbow 2 Total Spins 214 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer205 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I can provide you with a sample of chances for the different rarities if that's helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfkScape Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 why do people like dragonseance and zezima stop really close to a 200m. they are making a big deal out of 200m cooking and fletching or somethingsome players do it cause of effigy combos and whatnot eg jdelacroix with thievingdragonseance said he wants to get his 200ms in a specific order, with combats first, so he's holding off on cooking and fletching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinata Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I'm pretty sure if Green098 played efficiently she would have enough play hours to be 200m all skills.Tbh, I bet there are several players not even maxed who have enough time played for 200m in all skills. I'm not maxed and already have 330 days. Over seven years though. Capes in order: Firemaking - Cooking - Construction - 99 Dungeoneering- 120 Dungeoneering - Quest - Strength - Prayer - Herblore - Constitution- Attack - Defence - Ranged - Runecrafting - Magic - Fletching - Mining- Farming - Smithing - Slayer - Woodcutting - Summoning - Thieving - Hunter- Fishing - Agility - Crafting - Divination - Max - Completionist0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la la la Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 out of 1950 spins - 182 unassigned/124 assigned med, 250 unassigned /239 assigned small if anybody else wants to do the math to get the xp/hour and $/xp, be my guest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levine1996 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 How does the xp rate of bonfiring magic logs at 99 fm with at least 5 other people compare to that of Jadinko Lair curlys or magic logs with pyrelord? For someone with and also for someone without 200m WC xp, that is. Which method should S U O M I theoretically use once he gets around to it? Follow my progress toward maxing in f2p here: http://forum.tip.it/topic/296111-levine1996-maxing-out-100-f2p/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 why do people like dragonseance and zezima stop really close to a 200m. they are making a big deal out of 200m cooking and fletching or somethingsome players do it cause of effigy combos and whatnot eg jdelacroix with thievingdragonseance said he wants to get his 200ms in a specific order, with combats first, so he's holding off on cooking and fletchingalso assigned lamps from squeal of fortune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la la la Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 How does the xp rate of bonfiring magic logs at 99 fm with at least 5 other people compare to that of Jadinko Lair curlys or magic logs with pyrelord? For someone with and also for someone without 200m WC xp, that is. Which method should S U O M I theoretically use once he gets around to it?He should be doing arctic pines with the bonfire method, so neither is really a factor. I guess he could pay people to bonfire with him at arctic pines for the slight xp boost, but that's doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemeos2 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Does anyone have a good sample of sof spin results? Those must NOT include weekends and w/e. I want to find a rate of lamps of sof, so I can put it in my calculator assuming you get 2 spins each 24 hours in normal situations. I know you get more from skilling but 2 each 24hours is better than nothing.These are my spins since the April 2 update, but they do include the weekends. If the monkey items/horns/tattoos replaced other common/uncommon items instead of just being added to the list, it wouldn't affect the number of lamps received. Small Lamp 22Small Lamp (Attack) 1Small Lamp (Constitution) 3Small Lamp (Defence) 2Small Lamp (Dungeoneering) 1Small Lamp (Fishing) 2Small Lamp (Magic) 2Small Lamp (Prayer) 1Small Lamp (Ranged) 2Small Lamp (Runerafting) 1Small Lamp (Woodcutting) 1Medium Lamp 16Medium Lamp (Constitution) 1Medium Lamp (Defence) 1Medium Lamp (Dungeoneering) 3Medium Lamp (Farming) 1Medium Lamp (Firemaking) 1Medium Lamp (Fletching) 3Medium Lamp (Herblore) 1Medium Lamp (Prayer) 1Medium Lamp (Ranged) 1Medium Lamp (Runecrafting) 1Medium Lamp (Strength) 2Double Spin Ticket 13Coins X 50 57Adamant Hatchet 4Anchovy Pizza 2Barrel of Monkeys 3Cowhide X 2 4Curled Horns 1Emerald 3Gold Ore X 3 4Green D'Hide Body 2Iron Ore X 3 6Law Runes X 3 3Logs X 3 4Marauder Tatoo 1Monkey Mace 1Raw Swordfish X 2 7Raw Tuna X 5 5Rune Battleaxe 1Rune Pickaxe 2Rune Platebody 2Silver Ore X 5 2Soft Clay X 2 1Steel Arrows X 40 3Uncut Sapphire 4Yew Logs X 2 7Yew Shortbow 2 Total Spins 214 Then that's pretty much useless for the purpose. My youtube channel with efficient skilling guides and achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemeos2 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 out of 1950 spins - 182 unassigned/124 assigned med, 250 unassigned /239 assigned small if anybody else wants to do the math to get the xp/hour and $/xp, be my guest. Uh... you have to tell me the lamps you got.... Pretty much what Capheraekton at spoiler but with no special weekends and w/e. My youtube channel with efficient skilling guides and achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorator Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 How does the xp rate of bonfiring magic logs at 99 fm with at least 5 other people compare to that of Jadinko Lair curlys or magic logs with pyrelord? For someone with and also for someone without 200m WC xp, that is. Which method should S U O M I theoretically use once he gets around to it?I do believe Jandinko curlies are faster than bonfiring at any level - I've seen 280-320k xp/hour for magic bonfires and 300-400k xp/hour for curly roots. Obtained quest cape and base 92 before obtaining any 99s! Currently finishing out my 99s with the (long-distant) goal of comp cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemeos2 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 How does the xp rate of bonfiring magic logs at 99 fm with at least 5 other people compare to that of Jadinko Lair curlys or magic logs with pyrelord? For someone with and also for someone without 200m WC xp, that is. Which method should S U O M I theoretically use once he gets around to it?I do believe Jandinko curlies are faster than bonfiring at any level - I've seen 280-320k xp/hour for magic bonfires and 300-400k xp/hour for curly roots. L. Jadinko lair is around 350k Firemaking XP/hr and 33k Woodcutting XP/hr (at the same time).If you decide to just afk bonfires (there's other non-afk fm methods with bonfires), you will burn a log each 6 times. Just by a quick calc, you will be able to burn around ~970 logs/hr. Each log gives 318.99 firemaking XP with flame gloves and ring of fire. Bonfires with 4 people gives extra 5% XP so, 334.94 XP/log. 970*334.94=~325k XP/hrSo, even though bonfire firemaking (with afk method) is a way more afk, it costs cash and less XP/hr. I might also add that Jadinko Lair should be considered more than 350k Firemaking XP/hr. Let's say you would do pines 120k XP/hr for your woodcutting XP. 33k XP saves 16.5 mins. That makes firemaking at Jadinko Lair around 446.3k XP/hr. There's other firemaking methods with bonfires but those aren't afk. Suomi should ignore bonfire update and do pyrelord method. Suomi and everyone that is looking for the optimal firemaking method. My youtube channel with efficient skilling guides and achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vex Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Has anyone recorded the rough charms/summoning xp/hr from bonfires? http://www.[Caution! Jagex Rule Violation].com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Paul Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 got all those charms aside from a few golds from fming.Not that efficient but very afk. Only post I've seen so far. Eh, gives some idea. Working on max and completionist capes. 2435/2475 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capheraekton Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Does anyone have a good sample of sof spin results? Those must NOT include weekends and w/e. I want to find a rate of lamps of sof, so I can put it in my calculator assuming you get 2 spins each 24 hours in normal situations. I know you get more from skilling but 2 each 24hours is better than nothing.These are my spins since the April 2 update, but they do include the weekends. If the monkey items/horns/tattoos replaced other common/uncommon items instead of just being added to the list, it wouldn't affect the number of lamps received. Small Lamp 22Small Lamp (Attack) 1Small Lamp (Constitution) 3Small Lamp (Defence) 2Small Lamp (Dungeoneering) 1Small Lamp (Fishing) 2Small Lamp (Magic) 2Small Lamp (Prayer) 1Small Lamp (Ranged) 2Small Lamp (Runerafting) 1Small Lamp (Woodcutting) 1Medium Lamp 16Medium Lamp (Constitution) 1Medium Lamp (Defence) 1Medium Lamp (Dungeoneering) 3Medium Lamp (Farming) 1Medium Lamp (Firemaking) 1Medium Lamp (Fletching) 3Medium Lamp (Herblore) 1Medium Lamp (Prayer) 1Medium Lamp (Ranged) 1Medium Lamp (Runecrafting) 1Medium Lamp (Strength) 2Double Spin Ticket 13Coins X 50 57Adamant Hatchet 4Anchovy Pizza 2Barrel of Monkeys 3Cowhide X 2 4Curled Horns 1Emerald 3Gold Ore X 3 4Green D'Hide Body 2Iron Ore X 3 6Law Runes X 3 3Logs X 3 4Marauder Tatoo 1Monkey Mace 1Raw Swordfish X 2 7Raw Tuna X 5 5Rune Battleaxe 1Rune Pickaxe 2Rune Platebody 2Silver Ore X 5 2Soft Clay X 2 1Steel Arrows X 40 3Uncut Sapphire 4Yew Logs X 2 7Yew Shortbow 2 Total Spins 214 Then that's pretty much useless for the purpose. It's not useless because the extra horns/tattoos/monkey stuff doesn't affect lamps. In the 13 possible rewards from a spin, there is always 1 unassigned small, 1 assigned small, 1 unassigned medium, and 1 assigned medium lamp. The only real problem with it is it's a small sample size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la la la Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 out of 1950 spins - 182 unassigned/124 assigned med, 250 unassigned /239 assigned small if anybody else wants to do the math to get the xp/hour and $/xp, be my guest. Uh... you have to tell me the lamps you got.... Pretty much what Capheraekton at spoiler but with no special weekends and w/e.I did. Assigned lamps are randomly chosen from all skills, unassigned are lamps to use in a skill of your choice. You can assume each assigned lamp has a 1/25 likelihood for every skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 why do people like dragonseance and zezima stop really close to a 200m. they are making a big deal out of 200m cooking and fletching or somethingDragonseance wants to have the skills in his adventurer's log in a specific order and they may be put in order of which skill the player got first. He wants combat related skills (slayer and dg included) together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinata Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 why do people like dragonseance and zezima stop really close to a 200m. they are making a big deal out of 200m cooking and fletching or somethingDragonseance wants to have the skills in his adventurer's log in a specific order and they may be put in order of which skill the player got first. He wants combat related skills (slayer and dg included) together.200m skills on adventure log are posted by their order on hiscores. Well reverse order. Dungeoneering will always be first, such as Attack will always be last, well assuming you don't have 9 other 200m skills. Or else it won't even show up. Just check anyones adventure log with multiple 200m skills. Capes in order: Firemaking - Cooking - Construction - 99 Dungeoneering- 120 Dungeoneering - Quest - Strength - Prayer - Herblore - Constitution- Attack - Defence - Ranged - Runecrafting - Magic - Fletching - Mining- Farming - Smithing - Slayer - Woodcutting - Summoning - Thieving - Hunter- Fishing - Agility - Crafting - Divination - Max - Completionist0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 0101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonseance Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 why do people like dragonseance and zezima stop really close to a 200m. they are making a big deal out of 200m cooking and fletching or somethingDragonseance wants to have the skills in his adventurer's log in a specific order and they may be put in order of which skill the player got first. He wants combat related skills (slayer and dg included) together. This. I dont really think any 200m is a big deal, i dont even have parties, i get my 200ms alone. Its just I would hate to have a "noob 200m" like fletch or cook on my top row, even though I'm not entirely sure how that works... either way yeah by July i should have my a log page finished so after that ill just get them as they come. My YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemeos2 Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Does anyone have a good sample of sof spin results? Those must NOT include weekends and w/e. I want to find a rate of lamps of sof, so I can put it in my calculator assuming you get 2 spins each 24 hours in normal situations. I know you get more from skilling but 2 each 24hours is better than nothing.These are my spins since the April 2 update, but they do include the weekends. If the monkey items/horns/tattoos replaced other common/uncommon items instead of just being added to the list, it wouldn't affect the number of lamps received. Small Lamp 22Small Lamp (Attack) 1Small Lamp (Constitution) 3Small Lamp (Defence) 2Small Lamp (Dungeoneering) 1Small Lamp (Fishing) 2Small Lamp (Magic) 2Small Lamp (Prayer) 1Small Lamp (Ranged) 2Small Lamp (Runerafting) 1Small Lamp (Woodcutting) 1Medium Lamp 16Medium Lamp (Constitution) 1Medium Lamp (Defence) 1Medium Lamp (Dungeoneering) 3Medium Lamp (Farming) 1Medium Lamp (Firemaking) 1Medium Lamp (Fletching) 3Medium Lamp (Herblore) 1Medium Lamp (Prayer) 1Medium Lamp (Ranged) 1Medium Lamp (Runecrafting) 1Medium Lamp (Strength) 2Double Spin Ticket 13Coins X 50 57Adamant Hatchet 4Anchovy Pizza 2Barrel of Monkeys 3Cowhide X 2 4Curled Horns 1Emerald 3Gold Ore X 3 4Green D'Hide Body 2Iron Ore X 3 6Law Runes X 3 3Logs X 3 4Marauder Tatoo 1Monkey Mace 1Raw Swordfish X 2 7Raw Tuna X 5 5Rune Battleaxe 1Rune Pickaxe 2Rune Platebody 2Silver Ore X 5 2Soft Clay X 2 1Steel Arrows X 40 3Uncut Sapphire 4Yew Logs X 2 7Yew Shortbow 2 Total Spins 214 Then that's pretty much useless for the purpose. It's not useless because the extra horns/tattoos/monkey stuff doesn't affect lamps. In the 13 possible rewards from a spin, there is always 1 unassigned small, 1 assigned small, 1 unassigned medium, and 1 assigned medium lamp. The only real problem with it is it's a small sample size. I thought you have bigger chances of getting lamps at weekends? My youtube channel with efficient skilling guides and achievements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorator Posted May 20, 2012 Share Posted May 20, 2012 Does anyone have a good sample of sof spin results? Those must NOT include weekends and w/e. I want to find a rate of lamps of sof, so I can put it in my calculator assuming you get 2 spins each 24 hours in normal situations. I know you get more from skilling but 2 each 24hours is better than nothing.These are my spins since the April 2 update, but they do include the weekends. If the monkey items/horns/tattoos replaced other common/uncommon items instead of just being added to the list, it wouldn't affect the number of lamps received. Small Lamp 22Small Lamp (Attack) 1Small Lamp (Constitution) 3Small Lamp (Defence) 2Small Lamp (Dungeoneering) 1Small Lamp (Fishing) 2Small Lamp (Magic) 2Small Lamp (Prayer) 1Small Lamp (Ranged) 2Small Lamp (Runerafting) 1Small Lamp (Woodcutting) 1Medium Lamp 16Medium Lamp (Constitution) 1Medium Lamp (Defence) 1Medium Lamp (Dungeoneering) 3Medium Lamp (Farming) 1Medium Lamp (Firemaking) 1Medium Lamp (Fletching) 3Medium Lamp (Herblore) 1Medium Lamp (Prayer) 1Medium Lamp (Ranged) 1Medium Lamp (Runecrafting) 1Medium Lamp (Strength) 2Double Spin Ticket 13Coins X 50 57Adamant Hatchet 4Anchovy Pizza 2Barrel of Monkeys 3Cowhide X 2 4Curled Horns 1Emerald 3Gold Ore X 3 4Green D'Hide Body 2Iron Ore X 3 6Law Runes X 3 3Logs X 3 4Marauder Tatoo 1Monkey Mace 1Raw Swordfish X 2 7Raw Tuna X 5 5Rune Battleaxe 1Rune Pickaxe 2Rune Platebody 2Silver Ore X 5 2Soft Clay X 2 1Steel Arrows X 40 3Uncut Sapphire 4Yew Logs X 2 7Yew Shortbow 2 Total Spins 214 Then that's pretty much useless for the purpose. It's not useless because the extra horns/tattoos/monkey stuff doesn't affect lamps. In the 13 possible rewards from a spin, there is always 1 unassigned small, 1 assigned small, 1 unassigned medium, and 1 assigned medium lamp. The only real problem with it is it's a small sample size. I thought you have bigger chances of getting lamps at weekends? Not that I've been able to tell, no. Though members have gotten an extra spin per day each day of this month. (Remember, of course, there's also the large and huge lamp rewards which are not always present and much rarer.) Obtained quest cape and base 92 before obtaining any 99s! Currently finishing out my 99s with the (long-distant) goal of comp cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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