Honestly we have no idea, but my gut tells me that the crew bonus applies first. The issue is that there are any number of valid ways to solve this problem.. and without looking at the code there is no way we can know.

 

Sadly, they shouldn't round any calculations until the end...

It's a simple test of someone doing the trio and reporting what they get.

Can you do ports in the beta? Because then a single person can do all the necessary testing.

 

Jade merchant + FotS: 50 * 1.3 * 1.1 = 71.5

Terracotta merchant + FotS: 50 * 1.33 * 1.1 = 73.15

 

You get two extra trade goods of each from using a terracotta merchant.

In addition, they are worth getting for the entire Loop and Shield regions.

I'd just go and do the trio with TCM, also for the extra couple of hundred morale you get that way.

 

The multiplication at ports rounds down at every step. I kinda did some extensive research on it about a year ago.

Which leaves me to wonder, will FoTS be the first to be applied, or Terracota Merchants? Because it's the difference between:

 

[base * 1.1] * 1.33 = [50*1.1]*1.33=55*1.33=73

[base * 1.33] * 1.1 = [50*1.33]*1.1=66*1.1=72

 

I was under the impression it was [base]+[base*.1]+[base*.33]. That is to say that the multipliers are independent of one another and are only applied to the base.

which is 50+5+16=71

We already know that you can get 71 of each resource from the first two trio finales (with jade merchants), so it's definitely multiplicative.

Well I got nothing good tonight from ports other thab enough voyages to last until reset. I got one spice voyage and also sent two 700 steel specials which might not even count for port score... blah! Hopefully I get a random so I can bank some boosters or get an adventurer reroll or something.

Anyone refusing to do this voyage out of principle?

Anyone refusing to do this voyage out of principle?

He will end you.

He will end you.

Why? It's all according to the plan...

Finally unlocked the Trapper. I should have enough materials for both the superior cape and ring by the time I get his final voyage, and definitely by the trio, although probably only the scrolls to make one.

My progress towards The Loop has been slow due to not really changing up my schedule to send out two sets of voyages a day.

Remaxed all scrolls ;)!

Currently at 3440 terracotta from 20% of the distance. Great average :D.

Currently at 3440 terracotta from 20% of the distance. Great average :D.

I think mine(few pages back) was 3.5k at 19%. But it all starts going uphill from there.

 

Anyway, i finally managed to complete the trio missions. The answer to the question proposed on the last page is 72. It should also be noted that with 2 cherry trees and cotta merchant, 275 missions produce 390 cotta. 

Anyone refusing to do this voyage out of principle?

 

I kinda wonder wtf this means for lore overall.

The eastern lands were supposed to be a god-free area aside from the Missionary trying to bring Saradominism over.

 

So there's now Zarosians out there setting up shop?

Is it a mahjaratt? If so who exactly?

Are these non-mahjaratt who were Zarosian and are reclaiming their faith with the 6th age occuring?

Or is it simple another Jagex let a mod who knows jack about the pre-established lore splatter his 'creativity' all over something and haven't bothered to really check it works in lore and haven't even bothered with a poor excuse because it wasn't highly questioned in time for the FAQ post...

well, i don't think our port is the only port doing business now that the sea monsters aren't killing everybody

 

Anyone refusing to do this voyage out of principle?

 

I kinda wonder wtf this means for lore overall.

The eastern lands were supposed to be a god-free area aside from the Missionary trying to bring Saradominism over.

 

So there's now Zarosians out there setting up shop?

Is it a mahjaratt? If so who exactly?

Are these non-mahjaratt who were Zarosian and are reclaiming their faith with the 6th age occuring?

Or is it simple another Jagex let a mod who knows jack about the pre-established lore splatter his 'creativity' all over something and haven't bothered to really check it works in lore and haven't even bothered with a poor excuse because it wasn't highly questioned in time for the FAQ post...

 

 

After conversing with Zalok Prime, fellow lore hound, it could be related to the assassins hired by Zarosians in Devious Minds to retrieve that relic from Entrana. It's strongly implied that they come from the Eastern Lands (Bow-Sword, what?) and also that they are either Zarosians (he uses ancient magic) or paid agents of them. 

Personally I would not rate the use of Ancient Magik spells as a marker for Zarosian - All mahjaratt have been seen using them making it equally Zarosian, Zamorakian and Tumeken/Icthalrin related and that is without even counting pre-Gielinor times.

 

Plus the name kinda infers it doesn't really have a direct godly linkage and instead just a really old form of magic that we happen to be able to learn from Azzandra as he is really ancient too. Which would easily fit in with the Eastern Cultures with the ancient scrolls etc. with instructions and such.

 

Equally Devious Minds can be explained in other ways: Entrana is the place where Saradomin first entered Gielinor and in considered to be like the holiest place going for Saradominists. With most gods followers next to non-existent or secluded away in specific areas, Zarosian and Zamorakians alike driven underground/to the fringes and a Saradominist dominance you'd likely be hard pushed to find anyone genuinely willing to be so anti-saradomin as too violate Entrana in such a way that also has the skills to pull it off. Employing someone from a land that is non-religious would make perfect sense to get around such issues, especially when they are a highly trained assassin type.

 

Stemming from this it would not make sense overly for a for hire assassin to suddenly adopt a faith of his clientele to take home, that'd be rather unprofessional and not something he even really needs to know to do the job at hand and not something Azzandra seems likely to have revealed in the due course of events given the level of secrecy he maintains with all but us the adventurer.

 

It is a plausible explanation certainly, but I wouldn't say its very solid to scrutiny and I highly doubt the guy who did ports 2.0 even considered the lore personally.

 

Currently at 3440 terracotta from 20% of the distance. Great average :D.

I think mine(few pages back) was 3.5k at 19%. But it all starts going uphill from there.

 

I've gotten the Rudder and one Terracotta Merchant at 11%, but all the bigger voyages are coming in now and I'm averaging around 70% success with a JM/TCM. Probably better to get Loop Crew at this point? Or should I look into ship upgrades (cannons)?

 

 

Currently at 3440 terracotta from 20% of the distance. Great average :D.

I think mine(few pages back) was 3.5k at 19%. But it all starts going uphill from there.

 

I've gotten the Rudder and one Terracotta Merchant at 11%, but all the bigger voyages are coming in now and I'm averaging around 70% success with a JM/TCM. Probably better to get Loop Crew at this point? Or should I look into ship upgrades (cannons)?

 

The reason to get crew before ship upgrades(excluding rudder) is that ship upgrades are bought in big chunks and don't need training. Thus if you try to get ship upgrades first, you are likely to lose big chunks of cotta in failure and end up with untrained crew at the next region. I'm going to stop getting crew at around 55-60% trough the loop, whatever crew i've accumulated until that point. In general, i'd say the ship upgrades should be gotten in the order of lowest cost.

 

Sold a reefwalker cape for 25m. Net getting any trio voyages for 8 days and failing one at 91% really killed me.

Great stuff as usual, thanks xpx.

 

 

 

 

Currently at 3440 terracotta from 20% of the distance. Great average :D.

I think mine(few pages back) was 3.5k at 19%. But it all starts going uphill from there.

I've gotten the Rudder and one Terracotta Merchant at 11%, but all the bigger voyages are coming in now and I'm averaging around 70% success with a JM/TCM. Probably better to get Loop Crew at this point? Or should I look into ship upgrades (cannons)?

The reason to get crew before ship upgrades(excluding rudder) is that ship upgrades are bought in big chunks and don't need training. Thus if you try to get ship upgrades first, you are likely to lose big chunks of cotta in failure and end up with untrained crew at the next region. I'm going to stop getting crew at around 55-60% trough the loop, whatever crew i've accumulated until that point. In general, i'd say the ship upgrades should be gotten in the order of lowest cost.

 

Sold a reefwalker cape for 25m. Net getting any trio voyages for 8 days and failing one at 91% really killed me.

Oh that's nice! How long was it sitting until it sold?

 

I wish my trio would come up... that and at least ONE dang pearl... I'm 99/100 pearls for levi ring. Whyyyy! Two days dry with nothing, but spice and bone!

It seems my earlier hubris bit me in the ass.

Today I finally succeeded at the island mission after 3 consecutive failures, but not without one failure costine me 500 terracota in damages.

I'm 17% to the shield with only the rudder upgrade to my name and 480 terracota in the bank, at the moment. I'm slightly worried.

 

Also, when is the smuggler and the trader gonna stock terracota/azure and koi scales/pearls respectively?

It seems my earlier hubris bit me in the ass.

Today I finally succeeded at the island mission after 3 consecutive failures, but not without one failure costine me 500 terracota in damages.

I'm 17% to the shield with only the rudder upgrade to my name and 480 terracota in the bank, at the moment. I'm slightly worried.

 

Also, when is the smuggler and the trader gonna stock terracota/azure and koi scales/pearls respectively?

Don't worry too much, most of the cotta starts coming in at 20% when you start getting 175 and 275 cotta missions. Before 20% i was averaging 180 cotta per %, after 20% i'm averaging 350. Just get some cherry trees and start getting crew as that protects you from big cotta losses.

 

In all likelihood, they won't update trader/black market until some people have maxed port score/distance, which is atleast a month away.

 

The sale of RW cape took a few hours. There was a report of one selling for 23.5 instant on the same day.

So tonight/tomorrow I will arrive in Loop.

 

Best road is buying Crew > ship parts?

 

With Wisp > Merchant > Normal crew?

 

What crew format?

 

666421?

 

4 Merchant

2 wisps

1 Jod?

Wisp is totally pointless.

Rudder > Merchants > Standard crew > Ship parts.

 

But as xpx said, make sure you get those ship parts in time.