Why does everyone hate................pures and pc....?

[chi13]

Pures and Pest Control Products.

 

 

 

Honestly I think those people are some of the smartest people in the game. :) Rather than wasting their time getting those levels or combat stats "legitimately" they do things their own way and seem to be pretty damn good at it too.

 

 

 

 

 

People talk about "respect" all the time. I respect people smart enough to level up in half the time it takes another person to do the same, I respect people who stake people twice their combat level and win. So why all the hating

 

 

 

Also, people talk about pest control being "cheap" well...isn't members "cheap" aren't. rock crabs "cheap" when non-members have to spend hours killing monster 10x stronger to get the same experience more slowly?

 

If people think they're being oppressed by pures and pc products why bother playing? :-k . Discuss

[sk8_tolivv]

Well I don't hate pures but there are things I don't like about people who use PC for almost all of there combat exp.

 

 

 

The reason for this is because...they usually never spend any points on their Hitpoints and it kills me every time I see some one with nearly identical melee stats to me but with 2-5 less Hp levels. If they do also spend points on thieir Hitpoints to even things out then I don't have any problem with it.

 

 

 

I also don't like people who think PC is soo fast and easy to get exp.

 

It's not that fast, there are tons of other skills that can get the same exp/hour and some you can even get 2 or 4 times as much. Most of the time the people that say "Oh nice PC product, anyone can get those stats easily" don't even have any 99 combat stat them self. Also if it is so EASY and FAST, you try getting thousands and thousands of points without getting bored of it...its not easy.

[13_19_16]

I think the reason many people dislike them is that PC could be used to get massively unbalanced stats impossible with normal combat, which gives them an advantage over characters that were not made using those methods. I personally I don't have a problem with them - I just think they're not using the smartest means of training available (slayer is way better IMO). I do agree that PC could have been considered "cheap" in some sense (you could get double the XP per hour with it as opposed to "normal" combat) but with the advent of the improved PC this is not much of an issue anymore.

[Michael]

Well after the "nerf" of PC it has come somewhat more respectable, but still looked down upon by the snobs of the game.

[highlanders]

Not much to say about PC products anymore.

 

 

 

Pure melee builds are a good way to start a character, as they shine in f2p. Defence does not convince me, at all. A lot of people would disagree with me, and tell me hearsay about how defence defeated the pure. I think defence is very useful in many situations. In melee combat, defence simply does not keep up with the other two. Let armour and food take care of your defence. As a character grows and becomes p2p, the pure build slowly becomes obsolete, but elements remain, such as low defence. It's only logical to max out strength and attack before maxing out defence. It's only logical to keep prayer at 70, or as low as possible without gaining levels, up until all three melee stats are maxed. It's only logical to have a high ranged level in order to have the best amount of hp possible. Intelligent leveling, that's what it is.

[Sam]

In the expericences I've had, there have been alot of pures that start flame wars, or are just generslly being rude.

[Lets_3ekout]

I don't much care for either side of this arguement, for I'm as able to do what they are. But I do favour a side.

 

 

 

Imagine this, you've just spent 3 years training to level 120 or another similar combat level, you're unbelievably proud of what is a great achievment. Just as you hit you're peak of what you've achieved, Pest control comes out, and within 3 months there are people equal to your level that before could have been a level 60 in rune and a d long 3 months ago. Now just imagine, wouldn't you be frustrated with people casting shadow over what you've done when they have done so little themselves? Of course, you never had the oportunity to PC.

 

 

 

Of course, all's fair in love and war, and one should be as oportunistic as possible if they want to acheive the peak of what they are doing.

 

 

 

 

 

As for pures, I have nothing against the ideas of pures enough so for me to dislike the people that make them. If people want to spend hundreds of hours to get a slight advantage over me in just one small part of the game, I'm not going to go out of my way to show them how pointless they're efforts are, because you really do need those hundreds of hours of training to actually make anywhere near decent money PKing, which is one of the bigger reasons you're average will PK. But of course the fun factor justifies that for quite a few people.

 

The reason I lose respect for vast majority of pures is the average attitude I see. I know that there are reasonible people with a IQ that's human (unlike the usual IQ of what I'd find from a cardboard box) in thw wilderness, but they are far to few to make me respect pures in general. If even 25% of pures learn to grow up, I won't say another word about them in negative. Guess we've got quite the storm to wether before the negative look on pures is gone.

[cotamatias]

I don't much care for either side of this arguement, for I'm as able to do what they are. But I do favour a side.

 

 

 

Imagine this, you've just spent 3 years training to level 120 or another similar combat level, you're unbelievably proud of what is a great achievment. Just as you hit you're peak of what you've achieved, Pest control comes out, and within 3 months there are people equal to your level that before could have been a level 60 in rune and a d long 3 months ago. Now just imagine, wouldn't you be frustrated with people casting shadow over what you've done when they have done so little themselves? Of course, you never had the oportunity to PC.

 

 

 

Of course, all's fair in love and war, and one should be as oportunistic as possible if they want to acheive the peak of what they are doing.

 

 

 

 

 

As for pures, I have nothing against the ideas of pures enough so for me to dislike the people that make them. If people want to spend hundreds of hours to get a slight advantage over me in just one small part of the game, I'm not going to go out of my way to show them how pointless they're efforts are, because you really do need those hundreds of hours of training to actually make anywhere near decent money PKing, which is one of the bigger reasons you're average will PK. But of course the fun factor justifies that for quite a few people.

 

The reason I lose respect for vast majority of pures is the average attitude I see. I know that there are reasonible people with a IQ that's human (unlike the usual IQ of what I'd find from a cardboard box) in thw wilderness, but they are far to few to make me respect pures in general. If even 25% of pures learn to grow up, I won't say another word about them in negative. Guess we've got quite the storm to wether before the negative look on pures is gone.

yeah, or like spending 2.5 years getting 99 RC and then the month after they add this new alter, which gives twice the xp of crafting natures throught the abyss. That's quite annoying.

 

OT: I don't like PC because It's a waste, just train slayer at the same time. Also because I don't like combat that much to begin with. Pure, I have nothing against. Strength pures I find stupid, because they always bow to my awesome defence and can never touch me

[Xx_Flare_xX]

I can understand why players dislike pures but theres nothing wrong with pc prods imo.

 

it's not as easy as everyone keeps saying it is. someone told me i could get from 97-126 combat in a week.

 

 

 

i say do whatever you like. if you wanna train pc/make a pure do it, just because someone says not to doesn't mean you have to listen to them :

[Chazimcgee]

After pest control was changed it became a less effective training method and more hp experience was gained per game because the difficulty level increased. Some people don't respect pures because they find the easy option of training and do it a less "honourable" way than to what our mains have done it.

 

 

 

Alot of the higher level players hate pc because they have spent all their time training the only way they can through normal combat. Then along come pc and makes training twice as fast. I would be pretty annoyed lol.

[doomy]

People don't like people who are more efficient then them, or better at something (e.x pking).

[jonni]

To be honest, although I do not use PC myself, I do not see the problem with it?

 

What is wrong with using one of the best exp methods in the game to train?

 

Some people say you lose out on slayer, but what use is slayer if you want to use your account for PKing? and if you wanted to train slayer wouldn't it be faster to train when you are maxed out?

 

 

 

Furthermore, I don't see why people label other players with the somewhat offensive title of "PC Product".

 

Consider this: what if said player has a job/family? What if said player has limited time on the internet? Then what is wrong with using one of the fastest ways to train (even post-nerf) so that they can get the most out of the game in the limited time that they play.

 

 

 

As Mc90123 said above,

 

...still looked down upon by the snobs of the game.

 

 

 

If this was his point, then I agree-players who act like snobs and think they are doing the 'right thing' in the game by not using PC are infact just as bad as so called 'pc products'.

 

 

 

In any case, Pest Control is now basically useless. I curiously exchanged 100 points for some ranged exp recently, and at 78 range I got around 35,000 xp- a measly amount. Now range training for me is slow, but that is just TOO slow.

 

 

 

As for pures, I cannot really comment on that without abusing the Filter several times.

 

I think this topic comes up too often :wink:

[dargonhuman]

My problem with pc is that "exp" is more than just a number. There are a lot of hard lessons that people need to learn on the way to 99-whatever, and many of them (and just the general education of the rs world) are bypassed when you sit on an isolated island for three weeks bashing a few thousand portals. I'm only lvl 80-something, but in all the years it took me to get those experience points, I also gained far more valuable game experiences that have helped me make better decisions and be a better player in general, and that kind of experience can't be bought with pc points: ithas to be earned the hard way.

 

 

 

Pures, as a concept, I'm okay with; if they want to train that way, I can't stop them. Pures ascommunity members, though, are a bunch of trash-talking hoodlums who get off more on trying to make people angry/cry than actually winning fights. They're like the streetgangs of RS; they're generally reasonably intelligent, but you'd never guess it by the way they act. And, most of them talk a lot about being "tough", but will usually shy away from a real fight unless they've got unfair numbers to back them up.

[Dragonlordjl]

Me, personally, there are a couple reasons I detest Pures:

 

 

 

1) Most, not all, but most of them drop trade stuff from their mains and think they are badass because of it.

 

 

 

2) Most pures are very immature, even by the standards of the RS community. They talk so much trash and flame at every given moment that it is no surprise that a good handful of the "most famous" PKers are perm-muted.

 

 

 

3) They harp and piss and moan about every single update that "disadvantages them." As if Jagex is supposed to give special treatment to a group of idiots who purposely neglect stats. Again, grow up.

 

 

 

Basically, it's because of their attitudes that I hate pures. I've met a whole three pures ever that weren't asshats. To be honest, Pures are the RS equivalent of the "gangstahs" of real life. And yes, both cultures should be forcefully eradicated, as they only serve to corrode the community.

[ilovecuttingyews]

Me, personally, there are a couple reasons I detest Pures:

 

 

 

1) Most, not all, but most of them drop trade stuff from their mains and think they are badass because of it.

 

 

 

2) Most pures are very immature, even by the standards of the RS community. They talk so much trash and flame at every given moment that it is no surprise that a good handful of the "most famous" PKers are perm-muted.

 

 

 

3) They harp and piss and moan about every single update that "disadvantages them." As if Jagex is supposed to give special treatment to a group of idiots who purposely neglect stats. Again, grow up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Agreed. Most pures are 'throw way' accounts that the owner has no hard time parting with if they get banned so they feal like they can be rude, drop trade, etc.

[Chaos_Reborn]

I don't have anything particular against pures or "PC products" as a whole. I can't form an opinion about loads of people based on individuals, just sounds too wrong.

 

 

 

But some pures might look down on others because they have "pure stats" which could bother a few.

[The Observer]

Most pures..

 

 

 

NOT ALL PURES ARE LIKE THIS!!

 

NOT ALL PURES ARE LIKE THIS!!

 

NOT ALL PURES ARE LIKE THIS!!

 

 

 

..usually are extremely egotistical and don't care about anything around them. That's why a lot of people dislike them. I, myself try to make friends with them, or to make up a conversation. It doesn't usually work too well because they end up calling me a "noob" and asking me to have a death match with them. The word "no" isn't in their dictionary I suppose. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but this has been my experiences with most pures. :|

 

 

 

 

 

I would actually discourage using Pest Control for all your levels. In fact, one of my friends is level 100 and their Hitpoints level is 76. :|

[Kill_Life]

I don't hate (all) pures.

 

Neither do I hate skillers.

 

Perhaps the reason why people hate them is because they don't understand them (Or they have several better skills at a way lower combat and are jelous?).

 

I hope not many people are the last though...

 

 

 

But I don't care how you build your character, it still is your character. (It's property of Jagex, but yeah... You know)

 

 

 

For PC, I think the same as Philip_Kolar said...

 

I've seen someone going from 90 to 99 Ranged in a week and even gaining money from it... I can understand the frustration of many.

 

 

 

But it's your choise how you play the game.

[krisc6]

I never hated people who used pc for their combat.they can play runescape however they want and if they dont wnat to waste their life training at experiments or whatever and get it 3x as quick then thats fine with me.

 

 

 

However i do like monster hunting so pc,no thanks although i will try at 100 combat for the void robes,their hot

[Dragonwizerd]

the game may be less xp if you exchange 100 points, but it's more xp than it used to be for 100 games

[lol000999]

Most pures are generally immature (Well the ones I met) will have 1337 names and when they kill you even if they got a lucky hit and you say "GF" they will probably say "Owned" or "Noob" I also find alot of them in Castle wars. I don't understand why they can attack anyone meaning their Combat level isn't really going to matter. PC meh it's an easy way for fast exp whatever happened to good ol' 10k Exp per hour in RSC?

[berserking1]

pc created a large conflict between the high lvl players and the pures who would follow the high lvl groups around to try and earn fast exp.

 

this conflict grew to an extent where nearly every player threw around the word noob and tried to defend the stats of their characater saying things like, "im better than you," and so forth. Also, it was possible to find lv 100+ asking the simplest questions about the game, because all they knew was pc. I met a lv 104 in ardy once and he asked me what verac's special abiltiy was, aother asked me how to get to taverly.

 

 

 

All the quick and easy combat experience being handed out was grabbed by many, including myself, but it just created a nearly unsolvable conflict, which jagex evetually updated to try and fix the problem, in the process, pc became less popular

[lol000999]

^ I've had a level 109 ask me how to get clay, where Champion's guild is and how to start construction. What has the world come to?

[Kriseo]

I dont really care about pures. They are only useful in duel arena and wildy (The two places i visit to do clues, so they dont affect me) :

 

And pc...i went there once.Didnt really get the point-killing monsters is much more fun \

[imaerehw14]

Pures and Pest Control Products.

 

 

 

Honestly I think those people are some of the smartest people in the game. :) Rather than wasting their time getting those levels or combat stats "legitimately" they do things their own way and seem to be pretty damn good at it too.

 

 

 

 

 

People talk about "respect" all the time. I respect people smart enough to level up in half the time it takes another person to do the same, I respect people who stake people twice their combat level and win. So why all the hating

 

 

 

Also, people talk about pest control being "cheap" well...isn't members "cheap" aren't. rock crabs "cheap" when non-members have to spend hours killing monster 10x stronger to get the same experience more slowly?

 

If people think they're being oppressed by pures and pc products why bother playing? :-k . Discuss

 

 

 

I don't mind pures and pc products. Sure, get 99 att, 99 str, 99 range, 99 mage, and 80 hp, I don't care. But when I go pking, I don't want to hear about how you "pawnzawrd" me when you hit a 35 on me. and I definatly DON'T want to hear how my 93 defence is keeping you from killing me.... like thats my main goal for today. just give up to give you my items. No! that was the reason I got 93 defence in the first place!

 

 

 

Oh, and it is really hard for people to get experience through PC now. What with the few people still doing it, the experience being reduced, etc. Rock crabs arent that great of experience either in my opinion. I would rather train on dagannoths or with a slayer task. i find that exp goes faster, but maybe its because i am occupied with something else.