200M in all Skills

[The_Bug]

Just read back on all the mute and whining and stuff.

 

yeah... lol.

[Ginger_Warrior]

Don't think it's exactly fair to compare jumping on an activist bandwagon (although a stupid one, even by typical standards) to raging about Jagex. The former is hardly a sign of immaturity, but rather naivety. Raging about a mute though, that's just pretty tops of course.

Refusing to apologise for actions you knew would get you in trouble in the first place but still chose to do anyway is a sign of immaturity, regardless of context. The only exception I can think of is martyrdom, and I highly doubt Suomi was trying to make himself an e-Hero for child conscripts and sex slaves in sub-Saharan Africa.

 

The mature response would have been: "I'm sorry Jagex, I broke your rules and I accept the name reversal. However, I still want to publicise Kony 2012, so I'll do it elsewhere."

[Fallstar]

Thinking we should move on from this now and start talking about 200M all skills again. No, Suomi's personality and RSN is not relevant to that.

 

How do people think the two new skills will affect the 2nd and 3rd players to 200M all skills? The resource gathering skill probably won't be an issue, as following the recent trend it'll be AFK and > 100k xp/hr, but the buyable one could cause greater problems for those who don't rely on donations. Unless Drumgun etc. have enough stocked up already. Thoughts?

[G0d_vs_D3vil]

Thinking we should move on from this now and start talking about 200M all skills again. No, Suomi's personality and RSN is not relevant to that.

 

How do people think the two new skills will affect the 2nd and 3rd players to 200M all skills? The resource gathering skill probably won't be an issue, as following the recent trend it'll be AFK and > 100k xp/hr, but the buyable one could cause greater problems for those who don't rely on donations. Unless Drumgun etc. have enough stocked up already. Thoughts?

just till ppl will bring money for economy and then trade rs2 gp for 07 problem?

[Fallstar]

I was talking about the next players to get 200M all skills in modern RS :P

[Quyneax]

So the discussion for 200m all skills on 2007 Scape is also going to be held here? Nice.

Just added some comments to the post made by Donnie.

 

Since 07scape is definitely coming out and since there will be players going for 200m all there as well we should start looking at top xp rates for 07scape.

 

I'll start off. Hopefully with methods feasible without the GE and trading via trade worlds/forums.

 

To my knowledge:

 

Agility - Dorgesh-Kaan

Construction - Mahogany tables is still the fastest xp rate

Combat (melee) - Zombie monkeys are the best xp rate. Prayer gear/salve ammy/super sets/prayer pots

Cooking - sharks is the fastest xp rate. 07 Forum trading made cooking a cheap skill still.

Crafting - cutting gems is the fastest xp rate. Realistically probably crafting unstrung gold ammies, which can be sold to lunar mages, which can be sold to alchers. Green d'hide bodies would probably be a better option, there will be lots of people killing green dragons and also other dragons. Crafting dragonhide is a better option overall.

Farming - Trees/special/herbs

Firemaking - Magic logs

Fishing - fly fishing while dropping or barb fishing it was released Barb fishing it is, because it was relased at the time already. Also, there is an option of cutting the fish as you go, because there was no cut-x interface back then.

Fletching - stringing magic longs (u)

herblore - best potion that doesn't lose too much of a profit (unid herbs make herb cleaning impractical)

hunter - sallys (?) Everyone just did chins back then, because it was great profit and not that bad xp either. I think chins would be more efficient.

Magic - barraging at zombie monkey tunnel, but probably superheating/string all/high alch

Mining - granite

Prayer - guilded alter & Ourg bones realistically D-bones.

Ranging - Red chins

Runecrafting - service like W66 fast free laws is the best rc xp rate but when the economy catches up, Rings of dueling and fire runes

Slayer - Starting slayer at high combat with guthans (?) or black mask is the best xp rate

Smithing - Superheating gold ore (?) I think this wouldn't be efficient at all, no Living Rock Caverns back then. Smithing platebodies, depending on what the economy will want will be more efficient. And it's also annoying to superheat in 2007, because if you casted the spells too fast, when you clicked on the ore, it didn't superheat it.

Thieving - Blackjacking but possibly PP at high levels

Woodcutting - Arctic pines (?) or mahogany (?)

 

Then for first to max out:

 

My guess is the first player to max out will rush combat training. Probably duel arena with a buddy (because alternate accounts are totally against the rules). Duel keeping defense level 1, train strength to 30 and attack to 40. Upgrade to rune weapon (presumably dagger because of availability). Continue poking until 50 strength and 60 attack. Rush dragon dagger. Continue training with spec weapon until 70 attack, and 80 strength. Train defense to 40. Then upgrade training spots, presumably bandits/experiments/yaks/fight caves/or arena if it gives better xp rates, dunno which would be the best xp rate. When your a high combat level 80 Att, 90 Str, 60 def get started on slayer. When you get 55 slayer and unlock slayer dart (unless you think you can get 70 range/magic faster) and get the requirements for barrows done. Camp barrows at that point as much as possible, ideally getting your own set of guthans or the money to purchase one while selling other barrows items. From there start slayer, hopefully starting combat will give you an edge on the people that started slaying day 1. If it does and you are a top slayer you could potentially get decently rich off the skill and use it to fund other skills. This is my guess how the first 07scape player will max out.

 

It's a gilded altar dammit! Just try bleeping covering an altar in thin leaves of guild. Or guilt or whatever.

 

I think duel arena to 40 attack and starting slayer at 80 att 90 str is ridiculous. For one, there are no weapons past 70 attack, so attack levels are nearly useless, and without whip/barrows you can basically stay with dragon. Dscim will be an important one.

 

Realistically, I think you'll be looking at starting with farming & combat to get up to full rune and questing for MTK, dscim/rune defender etc.. You want to unlock some precious resources (for slayer/barrows and smithing/crafting/runecrafting as well) quickly, so herbs for pray pots & super sets, MTK for a lot of resources as well. To fuel MTK you need cash, which I think you can get best from alching especially early on, so natures from shops & alch drops and fletched bows and such. Barrows can be done with just 55 magic, 50 ranged and 43 prayer (tunnels would be a problem in monks robes, bring some rune armour I guess).

 

Void will be hard to get I think, with no higher levels to power through games, but if you can win a lot it'd be a good option for mid-range combat.

[Krampell]

200m in 2007scape is going to take a lot longer due to the lack of high level ways of training.

Or that's just my assumption.

[Ammako]

@Quyn: Attack (Or Strength/Magic/Ranged/Def) levels pre-eoc actually increased your accuracy (or damage/defence) enough for the boost to be visible.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Similar to EoC, though, the bigger boosts would come from actually unlocking new gear, which is why you'd aim for certain levels.

[NoHopeLeft]

Also strength is better for dps than attack so getting 60 attack then 99 strength then 70 attack is probably the best way of levelling, given the fact there is no sara sword

[brunokiller]

Also strength is better for dps than attack so getting 60 attack then 99 strength then 70 attack is probably the best way of levelling, given the fact there is no sara sword

 

As someone who has trained to 95 strength with 60 attack, don't stay at 60. I had a hard time hitting on anything with a bit of defence, and that was with max gear/extremes/turmoil too.

[God Of Lego]

Just go get your 1 exp. Who gives a damn if jagex is there or not.

[NoHopeLeft]

Also strength is better for dps than attack so getting 60 attack then 99 strength then 70 attack is probably the best way of levelling, given the fact there is no sara sword

 

As someone who has trained to 95 strength with 60 attack, don't stay at 60. I had a hard time hitting on anything with a bit of defence, and that was with max gear/extremes/turmoil too.

 

Actually now I think about it, you would want to train your attack but leave it trailing behind strength because an attack level 70-71 would take less xp than a strength level 90-91 or whatever, so you'd gain a dps increase sooner. Yeah don't stay at 60 attack.

[Quyneax]

@Quyn: Attack (Or Strength/Magic/Ranged/Def) levels pre-eoc actually increased your accuracy (or damage/defence) enough for the boost to be visible.

I think you mean the word viable, not visible, and the meaning worthwhile, not viable, nor visible, but anyway...

 

Yes, while attack increases your dps (and it is worth levelling), it is by no means a good idea to get 80 attack before slaying, because you start slayer fighting low def monsters anyway. It won't help you do Barrows very much either, compared to the same time spent levelling magic - that is until you hit 94 magic/ice barrage (maybe blitz, but you do need both attack and strength to lift melee dps).

 

Considering that 1-99 slayer will get you 1-99 atk/def/str/range as well, and early whips will be very valuable, there's good cause to start slayer before you hit 80 or even 70 attack.

[Ammako]

it is by no means a good idea to get 80 attack before slaying, because you start slayer fighting low def monsters anyway. It won't help you do Barrows very much either, compared to the same time spent levelling magic

That's true.

[ProtoRob]

Looking at pure guides from the time might be a good idea. I remember making a pure or two in 2007 and one of the first things I did was the waterfall quest. Gives you 30 att and str within an hour or so. Guessing how the economy will be shaped doesn't sound like a great idea to me, I think that choosing tasks and goals that work without the need for money makes more sense.

 

Perhaps 23 thieving, then training up agility or hunter. Agility will help with any skill that doesn't revolve around bankstanding, as well as making dailies quicker. If you hunt first though it could provide starter cash allowing you to train mage and buy tele runes to improve your gameplay. After achieving an optimum base, certain skills must be prioritised to improve the training of others, nothing precedes agility beyond a simple base level though?

 

 

I'd love to know what date in 2007 they're basing it on though, 9th december perhaps?

[Ammako]

I'd love to know what date in 2007 they're basing it on though, 9th december perhaps?

 

Read the news posts, says it quite clearly.

(SPOILER: It's August 10th.)

[WeatherMatt]

Great. Now there's TWO threads in General Discussion full of drama and irrationality.

There's a thread in Gen Disc free of drama and irrationality?

[Birdd]

I came on here to get an update on suomi's 5b xp and I see a second thread of 07 stuff.. Should keep that in the 07 thread ;P

[Grainy]

I think the reason 07Scape has worked it's way in, is because it's not proven that 200m all is possible - people are speculating how it was transfer to 07Scape.

 

I don't think Suomi's last 1xp is anymore relevant to this thread than the aforementioned 07Scape discussion.

[Yoko Kurama]

I think the reason 07Scape has worked it's way in, is because it's not proven that 200m all is possible - people are speculating how it was transfer to 07Scape.

 

I don't think Suomi's last 1xp is anymore relevant to this thread than the aforementioned 07Scape discussion.

 

Of course it's relevant. Not to me, of course, but some people have quite literally been waiting for this moment for several years, and have donated their time and money to Suomi; so yeah they're upset that the moment was 'robbed' from them. As to why he won't do it, Suomi said in the video that he is waiting it out a few months in the hopes that Jagex invites him again and he can do it there.

[LogOnBeach]

Inb4 they don't invite him back and he waits long enough for Jagex to release the new skill.

[Gemeos2]

Inb4 they don't invite him back and he waits long enough for Jagex to release the new skill.

 

Inb4 that's Jagex plan

[Grainy]

Nono I didn't say it wasn't - I was saying neither is more relevant than the other :P

[Ick12]

congrats Dapledo on 120 dg!!!!@@@@@@@@@@@