Yeah it's like a Monolith, annoying, food-consuming, and prayer-consuming, but it's not TOO bad with a good team. With a bad team though, both are nightmares.

Mercenary is a nightmare in a solo/duo already. =\

 

But I agree, with a proper team, this shouldn't be too hard.

 

Don't forget, Sonic. Those were level 90-100s with with gorgonite, while we were just F2P having fractite as the best.

I'm wishing that I had no-lifed to 120 dungeoneering like a handful of other f2pers... all these new members puzzles that are impossible, or geared towards members that are very difficult to "solve" on F2P are really starting to piss me off.

 

Good fight, jamflex.

Anyone else think the mercenary leader battle room is HELLA overpowered? =\

 

I'd like to see an entire 5-man team no-death the room, tbh.

 

I've done the room 3 times and haven't seen a death on it yet.

I'm wondering if the primal longsword is better for keying than the primal battle axe.

 

Anyone had any experience with both?

Nope, the longsword only has slash for accurate/aggressive- the stab option is controlled so you can't use it with rings, making it a crap weapon overall.

 

if you're with a perm team, would having maybe one Longsword be a decent idea though? For stabbing purposes.

You can also use tank with it, since the only req is a shield, not combat style iirc

Had lvl 9 mercenary leader, spawned warriors in novite lol, was after mono.

Just bought seeker and scroll of cleaning. Will buy surge box later maybe.

 

Scroll of cleaning saves vials of water too.

 

Dialogue 1 with sneakerpeeper

 

Seeker: "Sneaks and [player], sitting in a tree..."

Player: "Can you stop singing that? It's kind of freaking me out."

Seeker: "That's fine, [player]! Sneaks has bag under its eye, full of songs dedicated to you. 'If you're happy and you know it, snuggle your Sneaks'..."

Player: "Do you take requests, perhaps? How about something that doesn't involve my name or yours?"

Seeker: "Sneaks can do that. 'Millions of people go by, but they all disappear from view. I only have eyes for you.'"

Player: "Don't make me visit a slayer master to get some earmuffs, Sneaks."

 

there are 2 more dialogues if anyone is interested.

 

Feeding him prompts "Om nom nom nom, more!"

 

I guess you could say you're...

Quite the impressionist.

 

YYYYYYYYYEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

Could someone post the new Chronicles of Bilrach?

Could someone post the new Chronicles of Bilrach?

 

I second this, and all the other notes please :thumbup:

Just bought seeker and scroll of cleaning. Will buy surge box later maybe.

 

Scroll of cleaning saves vials of water too.

 

Dialogue 1 with sneakerpeeper

 

Seeker: "Sneaks and [player], sitting in a tree..."

Player: "Can you stop singing that? It's kind of freaking me out."

Seeker: "That's fine, [player]! Sneaks has bag under its eye, full of songs dedicated to you. 'If you're happy and you know it, snuggle your Sneaks'..."

Player: "Do you take requests, perhaps? How about something that doesn't involve my name or yours?"

Seeker: "Sneaks can do that. 'Millions of people go by, but they all disappear from view. I only have eyes for you.'"

Player: "Don't make me visit a slayer master to get some earmuffs, Sneaks."

 

there are 2 more dialogues if anyone is interested.

 

Feeding him prompts "Om nom nom nom, more!"

 

I guess you could say you're...

Quite the impressionist.

 

YYYYYYYYYEAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH

That made my life. Thank you sir.

Could someone post the new Chronicles of Bilrach?

 

I second this, and all the other notes please :thumbup:

 

Yes, something. I can't believe I can't find them anywhere else.

Anyone else think the mercenary leader battle room is HELLA overpowered? =\

 

I'd like to see an entire 5-man team no-death the room, tbh.

 

I've done the room 3 times and haven't seen a death on it yet.

I'm wondering if the primal longsword is better for keying than the primal battle axe.

 

Anyone had any experience with both?

Nope, the longsword only has slash for accurate/aggressive- the stab option is controlled so you can't use it with rings, making it a crap weapon overall.

 

if you're with a perm team, would having maybe one Longsword be a decent idea though? For stabbing purposes.

You can also use tank with it, since the only req is a shield, not combat style iirc

 

I'd use a primal spear there instead.

I'm wondering if the primal longsword is better for keying than the primal battle axe.

 

Anyone had any experience with both?

I'm guessing the baxe is still better thanks to the longsword's "not aggressive" stab, but that might only apply to spears.

 

If the stab DOES work with zerker, and the monsters are weak to stab/slash combo, then longsword is definitely better.

 

Please stop guessing you are 95% of the times wrong when you guess. You know NOTHING of this matter, so don't try and give advice.

Could someone post the new Chronicles of Bilrach?

 

I second this, and all the other notes please :thumbup:

 

Yes, something. I can't believe I can't find them anywhere else.

As I suggested two pages back, if you skip to the end of new boss fight videos you can find at least the boss specific lores. Of course I feel people may have ignored me before because it's too much for them to do this... :rolleyes:

Could you please link me to one of the videos that shows the journals? Because so far every single one I checked doesn't show anything.

 

Thanks in advance.

Could someone post the new Chronicles of Bilrach?

 

I second this, and all the other notes please :thumbup:

 

Yes, something. I can't believe I can't find them anywhere else.

As I suggested two pages back, if you skip to the end of new boss fight videos you can find at least the boss specific lores. Of course I feel people may have ignored me before because it's too much for them to do this... :rolleyes:

 

It would be much more helpful to collate them, and this is the place to do it instead of simply throwing them where some of them might be found. The lores make a lot more sense if you have them together.

Could you please link me to one of the videos that shows the journals? Because so far every single one I checked doesn't show anything.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

yes, I agree. Plus I'm not that interested in the boss specific ones, simply the chronicles.

 

-edit- I don't need pics either. Simple transcripts would be enough for me. :)

Damn, stonewall? More like stone-cold. :cool:

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Anyone else think the mercenary leader battle room is HELLA overpowered? =\

 

I'd like to see an entire 5-man team no-death the room, tbh.

 

I've done the room 3 times and haven't seen a death on it yet.

I'm wondering if the primal longsword is better for keying than the primal battle axe.

 

Anyone had any experience with both?

Nope, the longsword only has slash for accurate/aggressive- the stab option is controlled so you can't use it with rings, making it a crap weapon overall.

 

if you're with a perm team, would having maybe one Longsword be a decent idea though? For stabbing purposes.

You can also use tank with it, since the only req is a shield, not combat style iirc

 

I'd use a primal spear there instead.

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Hmm, maybe. But you can't use ANY melee rings with that. It might also be fair to mention the 1 primal Longsword we have is our keyer as well, So being a 1h weapon, he can use tank. Not to mention none of us can get the spear yet :P

 

 

I'm wondering if the primal longsword is better for keying than the primal battle axe.

 

Anyone had any experience with both?

I'm guessing the baxe is still better thanks to the longsword's "not aggressive" stab, but that might only apply to spears.

 

If the stab DOES work with zerker, and the monsters are weak to stab/slash combo, then longsword is definitely better.

 

Please stop guessing you are 95% of the times wrong when you guess. You know NOTHING of this matter, so don't try and give advice.

Isn't he right though? As in the B Axe is still better.

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Anyone else think the mercenary leader battle room is HELLA overpowered? =\

 

I'd like to see an entire 5-man team no-death the room, tbh.

 

I've done the room 3 times and haven't seen a death on it yet.

I'm wondering if the primal longsword is better for keying than the primal battle axe.

 

Anyone had any experience with both?

Nope, the longsword only has slash for accurate/aggressive- the stab option is controlled so you can't use it with rings, making it a crap weapon overall.

 

if you're with a perm team, would having maybe one Longsword be a decent idea though? For stabbing purposes.

You can also use tank with it, since the only req is a shield, not combat style iirc

 

I'd use a primal spear there instead.

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Hmm, maybe. But you can't use ANY melee rings with that. It might also be fair to mention the 1 primal Longsword we have is our keyer as well, So being a 1h weapon, he can use tank. Not to mention none of us can get the spear yet :P

 

I'd use it there. The primal longsword is probably a little bit better than the primal battleaxe for keying because slash/crush can be found on 2h's.

Anyone else think the mercenary leader battle room is HELLA overpowered? =\

 

I'd like to see an entire 5-man team no-death the room, tbh.

 

I've done the room 3 times and haven't seen a death on it yet.

I'm wondering if the primal longsword is better for keying than the primal battle axe.

 

Anyone had any experience with both?

Nope, the longsword only has slash for accurate/aggressive- the stab option is controlled so you can't use it with rings, making it a crap weapon overall.

Have SOMEONE forgotten that the 2h is the best weapon in dungeoneering - unless you want to use a TANK ring, in which case you need a 1handed weapon

WHERE ON EARTH DOES IT MATTER IF THE BERSERKER RING WORKS WITH A LONGSWORD THEN??

 

The longsword has -6 str compared to the battle axe, but a higher SLASH

I dont know how many monsters you would CRUSH excpt for pl8ed warriors? so i dont know how important that 2nd style is, but note that stab works "allright" on pl8ed warriors

Im 90% positive that my longsword is actually faster than a b axe, in which case higher accuracy and only slightly lower str make my longsword better than a b axe

if it isnt faster, ignore the last line

Anyone else think the mercenary leader battle room is HELLA overpowered? =\

 

I'd like to see an entire 5-man team no-death the room, tbh.

 

I've done the room 3 times and haven't seen a death on it yet.

I'm wondering if the primal longsword is better for keying than the primal battle axe.

 

Anyone had any experience with both?

Nope, the longsword only has slash for accurate/aggressive- the stab option is controlled so you can't use it with rings, making it a crap weapon overall.

Have SOMEONE forgotten that the 2h is the best weapon in dungeoneering - unless you want to use a TANK ring, in which case you need a 1handed weapon

WHERE ON EARTH DOES IT MATTER IF THE BERSERKER RING WORKS WITH A LONGSWORD THEN??

 

The longsword has -6 str compared to the battle axe, but a higher SLASH

I dont know how many monsters you would CRUSH excpt for pl8ed warriors? so i dont know how important that 2nd style is, but note that stab works "allright" on pl8ed warriors

Im 90% positive that my longsword is actually faster than a b axe, in which case higher accuracy and only slightly lower str make my longsword better than a b axe

if it isnt faster, ignore the last line

 

They're same speed.

 

Weak to crush:

Fire giants

All Skeleton types

Reborn mages + Their warriors

Hobgoblins (many say stab...many also say slash, I personally never miss these guys with crush :unsure: )

Plated Warriors

 

Weak to stab:

Hell Hounds

Demons

Guard Dogs

Brutes

Chained warriors

Dragons

 

There's obviously more, but those are the main ones that you seem to find the most

Both crush and stab are useful.

The B Axe and Longsword are very comparable if you only look at stats, However, since the B Axe can be used with berserker on BOTH of it's attack styles, it has better DPS

Have SOMEONE forgotten that the 2h is the best weapon in dungeoneering - unless you want to use a TANK ring, in which case you need a 1handed weapon

WHERE ON EARTH DOES IT MATTER IF THE BERSERKER RING WORKS WITH A LONGSWORD THEN??

 

The longsword has -6 str compared to the battle axe, but a higher SLASH

I dont know how many monsters you would CRUSH excpt for pl8ed warriors? so i dont know how important that 2nd style is, but note that stab works "allright" on pl8ed warriors

Im 90% positive that my longsword is actually faster than a b axe, in which case higher accuracy and only slightly lower str make my longsword better than a b axe

if it isnt faster, ignore the last line

Someone might have, but it sure wasn't me. Has someone forgotten that we now have a quick switch between tank and berserker, meaning that you can trivially use tank for rushing through rooms AND berserker for fighting without wasting time?

 

Crush is pretty important to have for skeletons if nothing else- skeletons are EVERYWHERE and have a significant crush weakness.

 

Honestly, I'd be more into the idea of one guy having a rapier than a longsword. That way you can stab with berserker, making it actually USEFUL on stab weak enemies, and you can still do some okay slashing on zombies when you have to.

Anyone else think the mercenary leader battle room is HELLA overpowered? =\

 

I'd like to see an entire 5-man team no-death the room, tbh.

 

I've done the room 3 times and haven't seen a death on it yet.

I'm wondering if the primal longsword is better for keying than the primal battle axe.

 

Anyone had any experience with both?

Nope, the longsword only has slash for accurate/aggressive- the stab option is controlled so you can't use it with rings, making it a crap weapon overall.

Have SOMEONE forgotten that the 2h is the best weapon in dungeoneering - unless you want to use a TANK ring, in which case you need a 1handed weapon

WHERE ON EARTH DOES IT MATTER IF THE BERSERKER RING WORKS WITH A LONGSWORD THEN??

 

The longsword has -6 str compared to the battle axe, but a higher SLASH

I dont know how many monsters you would CRUSH excpt for pl8ed warriors? so i dont know how important that 2nd style is, but note that stab works "allright" on pl8ed warriors

Im 90% positive that my longsword is actually faster than a b axe, in which case higher accuracy and only slightly lower str make my longsword better than a b axe

if it isnt faster, ignore the last line

 

They're same speed.

 

Weak to crush:

Fire giants

All Skeleton types

Reborn mages + Their warriors

Hobgoblins (many say stab...many also say slash, I personally never miss these guys with crush :unsure: )

Plated Warriors

 

Weak to stab:

Hell Hounds

Demons

Guard Dogs

Brutes

Chained warriors

Dragons

 

There's obviously more, but those are the main ones that you seem to find the most

Both crush and stab are useful.

The B Axe and Longsword are very comparable if you only look at stats, However, since the B Axe can be used with berserker on BOTH of it's attack styles, it has better DPS

 

Hobgoblins are definetly weakest to crush, and earth warriors are weakest to crush aswell

But

I never have any trouble hitting skeles with slash and those reborn mages in warped floors - as far as i remember - are VERY weak to stab.

 

The B Axe and Longsword are very comparable if you only look at stats, However, since the B Axe can be used with berserker on BOTH of it's attack styles, it has better DPS

But, once again, wouldnt you only use the TANK ring with these?

Wouldnt youa gree that the 2h is the best, and we choose between long and b axe cuz they are 1handed.

Sure there is the "quick change" to our rings now, but it doesnt seem to work very well (EDIT2@above: For me it didnt wanna change back once i changed it the first time... i guess i have to test it again - skeles drop pretty fast on slash)

 

i still think the long is faster tho :unsure:

EDIT: Runescape knowledge base says longswords are 1 "point" faster than b axes

Longswords and battleaxes are the same speed in Daemonheim. A lot of the weapons have different speed there than in overworld RS, for example 2h is battleaxe/longsword speed in daemonheim but MUCH lower in overworld.

Anyone else think the mercenary leader battle room is HELLA overpowered? =\

 

I'd like to see an entire 5-man team no-death the room, tbh.

 

I've done the room 3 times and haven't seen a death on it yet.

I'm wondering if the primal longsword is better for keying than the primal battle axe.

 

Anyone had any experience with both?

Nope, the longsword only has slash for accurate/aggressive- the stab option is controlled so you can't use it with rings, making it a crap weapon overall.

Have SOMEONE forgotten that the 2h is the best weapon in dungeoneering - unless you want to use a TANK ring, in which case you need a 1handed weapon

WHERE ON EARTH DOES IT MATTER IF THE BERSERKER RING WORKS WITH A LONGSWORD THEN??

 

The longsword has -6 str compared to the battle axe, but a higher SLASH

I dont know how many monsters you would CRUSH excpt for pl8ed warriors? so i dont know how important that 2nd style is, but note that stab works "allright" on pl8ed warriors

Im 90% positive that my longsword is actually faster than a b axe, in which case higher accuracy and only slightly lower str make my longsword better than a b axe

if it isnt faster, ignore the last line

 

They're same speed.

 

Weak to crush:

Fire giants

All Skeleton types

Reborn mages + Their warriors

Hobgoblins (many say stab...many also say slash, I personally never miss these guys with crush :unsure: )

Plated Warriors

 

Weak to stab:

Hell Hounds

Demons

Guard Dogs

Brutes

Chained warriors

Dragons

 

There's obviously more, but those are the main ones that you seem to find the most

Both crush and stab are useful.

The B Axe and Longsword are very comparable if you only look at stats, However, since the B Axe can be used with berserker on BOTH of it's attack styles, it has better DPS

 

Hobgoblins are definetly weakest to crush, and earth warriors are weakest to crush aswell

But

I never have any trouble hitting skeles with slash and those reborn mages in warped floors - as far as i remember - are VERY weak to stab.

 

The B Axe and Longsword are very comparable if you only look at stats, However, since the B Axe can be used with berserker on BOTH of it's attack styles, it has better DPS

But, once again, wouldnt you only use the TANK ring with these?

Wouldnt youa gree that the 2h is the best, and we choose between long and b axe cuz they are 1handed.

Sure there is the "quick change" to our rings now, but it doesnt seem to work very well (EDIT2@above: For me it didnt wanna change back once i changed it the first time... i guess i have to test it again - skeles drop pretty fast on slash)

 

i still think the long is faster tho :unsure:

EDIT: Runescape knowledge base says longswords are 1 "point" faster than b axes

 

They're same speed, You were probably looking at the Normal RS speeds.

How does the Prom 2h compare to the Primal B axe. When I switched, I noticed myself killing things faster with the b axe, I cannot get the primal 2h, so I don't mention it as there is no point in comparing it yet. I personally haven't tried stab on the new mages, but I don't have a stab option. I've just noticed I hit accurately with crush.

Longswords and battleaxes are the same speed in Daemonheim. A lot of the weapons have different speed there than in overworld RS, for example 2h is battleaxe/longsword speed in daemonheim but MUCH lower in overworld.

I know its different for 2hs

have you tested it? (i havent, even tho i have a long :mellow: )

i mean, until now noone used a long in Dung, so im sure most people have never seen them hit at the same time untillthis tuesday.

 

EDIT: Does the new "quick switch" work as well as you say it does?

then maybe i should look into getting a b axe..

 

And @sir: comparing with a primal 2h doesnt really concern me, or the average plater im guessing - i think theres a loong time until a reasonable amount of ppl have access to them (even with new exp rates)