examples?

I hoped Jagex would be the creativy one, not me. As it's their job.

I can't figure out how to earn respect.... I've been smithing ceremonial armour for the last 20 minutes and I'm still at 0% respect.

1b is easy to get if youre a high level.

 

Debatable. Since you say high level I'll assume you mean getting the gp through combat. Most methods, excluding nex, are in the 4m/h range I believe. I'll be generous and say 5m/h. So 200 hours of gameplay for that 1b. Thats far from easy in my books.

 

It would be much easier and fun to spend 40 hours getting 200m (assuming costs similar to herblore), 50 hours smithing, and playing with untradeable armors for 110 hours.

 

 

you must not do nex then

1b is easy to get if youre a high level.

 

Debatable. Since you say high level I'll assume you mean getting the gp through combat. Most methods, excluding nex, are in the 4m/h range I believe. I'll be generous and say 5m/h. So 200 hours of gameplay for that 1b. Thats far from easy in my books.

 

It would be much easier and fun to spend 40 hours getting 200m (assuming costs similar to herblore), 50 hours smithing, and playing with untradeable armors for 110 hours.

He's probably assuming that you're going to be hunting nex and investing in your downtime, MH is all fine and well but its merching that defines a rich high level. More OT: apparently the last cannon upgrade you can get keeps everything aggresive, or it might just be JaGeX playing around with words, so that might be worthwhile.

Is there a trick to raising your respect....because jesus is it slow so far.

 

 

Pimp a cannon, you say?

 

 

Yeah, a revamp would've been something like changing the smithing tables and the levels to smith metals and their respective items, as well as adding in higher level metals for different armors.

 

This isn't a revamp, it's an activity to train Smithing. If they think this is a revamp to the Smithing skill then I'm guessing they also wear alluminum foil on their heads to help block the signals from the satellites that are spying on them.

 

i.e. You'd have to be crazy to think this is a revamp.

Ingot = Minecraft ripoff

 

Not quite. An ingot is an actual thing.. You use a computer to play Minecraft, they ripped of RS, RS uses a computer too!

 

Minecraft didn't create them.

 

I can't wait to try this out! I don't mine cosmetic rewards, instead of mid-level weapons and armor that no one would ever use...

the reason to train smithing is to open smithing doors in dungeoneering.

 

I lmao'd pretty loud for 15 seconds reading this.

Nex armors will fall in price. Either way, if you are nexing to get nex gear you can expect to get a full set of virtus in 40 or so hours.

Now I'm depressed ;_; lvl138 and only 18m banked, apart from skill investments.

high level nowadays entails 100+ dg (all chaotics + rigour), around 80m+ in gear at least, 99 summ, 95 pray, maxed combat

i view sub 100 dg as a huge weakness. having chaotics to throw around is very convenient.

you should MH. it's at least 3m an hour. nex is around 10-20m/hr.

From that list, I have everything but 100 dung. I don't have the contacts to have a steady team in order to dungeoneer (apart from DGS, which lately aren't doing the floors I need), or to boss hunt.

One time bonus of 15k exp for a perfect addy ceremonial sword.

Is there a trick to raising your respect....because jesus is it slow so far.

Unlikely. RAising respect is meant to be difficult, and is meant to be a by-prodcut of training normally then "oh I can go fix a pipe that should help the dwarves".

 

Besides, raising respect is hard IRL too.

 

In my opinion it would help for smithing to perhaps focus on non-combat skills. The only problem is I can't see how.

Now I'm depressed ;_; lvl138 and only 18m banked, apart from skill investments.

high level nowadays entails 100+ dg (all chaotics + rigour), around 80m+ in gear at least, 99 summ, 95 pray, maxed combat

i view sub 100 dg as a huge weakness. having chaotics to throw around is very convenient.

you should MH. it's at least 3m an hour. nex is around 10-20m/hr.

From that list, I have everything but 100 dung. I don't have the contacts to have a steady team in order to dungeoneer (apart from DGS, which lately aren't doing the floors I need), or to boss hunt.

 

Boss hunting doesn't require a team anymore, except Nex and maybe Corp.

One time bonus of 15k exp for a perfect addy ceremonial sword.

 

That 15k bonus exp is for any perfect sword. 5k bonus exp for over 90%.

 

Only one time bonus.

 

 

Pimp a cannon, you say?

 

 

Brilliant :thumbsup:

One word. Meh.

I think this is a good update offering new training methods.

It's just dissapointing, because the way they talked about it for over a year left the impression that this would be something more large-scale. A good example of a 'revamp' is the herblore update, which was developed by Paul. Also curses for prayer. Those updates gave reasons to level up the skills, something new and useful to expect until the high 90s. This update does nothing to add appeal to the smithing skill other than alternative training methods, which really wasn't the key problem. I mean, I would have been happy just by being able to smith, for example a platebody offering +5 str. Nothing game changing, just something nice as a reward for a high level in the skill.

I think this is a good update offering new training methods.

It's just dissapointing, because the way they talked about it for over a year left the impression that this would be something more large-scale. A good example of a 'revamp' is the herblore update, which was developed by Paul. Also curses for prayer. Those updates gave reasons to level up the skills, something new and useful to expect until the high 90s. This update does nothing to add appeal to the smithing skill other than alternative training methods, which really wasn't the key problem. I mean, I would have been happy just by being able to smith, for example a platebody offering +5 str. Nothing game changing, just something nice as a reward for a high level in the skill.

 

A platebody offering +5 strength would be pretty game-changing, as that outclasses both Bandos and Torva armors in that facet (which is probably the biggest reason people buy Bandos armor at all). Maybe if it offered +3 strength, but then people would complain it's not good enough.

 

Honestly, smithing does have its rewards - armor repair costs. Instead of creating new rewards that wind up messing with current game balance, why not just improve an existing reward?

 

92 - Permanently repair a barrows helm

93 - Permanently repair a barrows legs

94 - Permanently repair a barrows plate

95 - Permanently repair a barrows weapon

96 - Permanently repair a Virtus mask, Torva full helm, or Pernix cowl

97 - Permanently repair a Virtus robe legs, Torva platelegs, or Pernix chaps

98 - Permanently repair a Virtus robe top, Torva platebody, or Pernix body

99 - Permanently repair a Zaryte Bow or Frozen Key

 

Wouldn't have to be for free, could charge a price maybe 5x the normal repair cost or something. If you're PKed with it, it's treated the same way as degraded armor (barrow gear turns to 0 charged). Untradeable.

 

Creating new armors just blurs the line between a combat and non-combat skill (many people still argue that Herblore should be included in your combat level, and frankly, I agree), and creates imbalances that result in restrictions (Extremes banned in dangerous PvP).

Am i only one who thinks cannon cosmetic updates sucks balls? Also can someone post pics?

It's gonna cost A LOT of money to get the best cannon now.

And it's only cosmetic so it's not worth the money/time it takes to get 100% respect.

 

Also, remember that one unlucky move and you can either mess up the sword and get no xp or do a too big dent and not get full xp.

 

It's damn expensive too.

Iron ores are up at like 250gp each.

The game needs more untradeable high level equipment.

 

The whole concept of Nex armor is [developmentally delayed]. It requires lvl 80 combat stats to use, and requires damn near a maxed account to GET (unless you want to spend an absurd amount of money that can only really be MADE by high level monster hunting).

 

They need to lower the levels of making/mining rune ores to 60 (or even 40); that's when rune stops being useful. Add more useful high level smithing content. Who cares if it devalues Nex/GWD armor...?

 

Oh yeah... people making absurd amounts of money by getting it. <_<

The whole concept of Nex armor is [developmentally delayed]. It requires lvl 80 combat stats to use, and requires damn near a maxed account to GET (unless you want to spend an absurd amount of money that can only really be MADE by high level monster hunting).

 

Some pieces are already down to under 200M. Even without very high stats, you can make that pretty easily doing slayer, camping dragons, certain skilling methods, and so on. I remember Bandos chestplate and tassets at 50M, and tons of people levels 100 to 110 had them. That's already a third of the price of a Virtus mask right there. Virtus robe legs aren't too much higher.

 

That's why tradeable rewards > untradeable. Even if you don't like the activity involved, you can still attain the reward by doing something else profitable, preferably something you like doing.

the reason to train smithing is to open smithing doors in dungeoneering.

 

I lmao'd pretty loud for 15 seconds reading this.

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