MTheory Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 What's the first thing I should buy in bowl? Should I save up for next ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I dont know if Rudder could be that much of a help, if not I would suggest ship yes. At the moment a level 3 crew of Bowl outmatches a level 7 crew from scythe. But then you got to drop a bit of success rate. On the other hand it is already though to get good missions with even 3 ships =/ Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_Warrior Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 IMO (this assumes you have Lifeboats): 1) Rudder2) Basic crew, 4-6 of each (farcriers, bounty hunters, sea dogs)3) 4th Ship4) Morale hull upgrade(5-a) Judges of Dice) {If you've unlocked them, if not, from this point on as soon as you're able to)5) Deck upgrades6) Seafaring hull upgrade7) Ram upgrade8) Jade merchants9) Warehouse upgrade10-) Remaining building upgrades I dont know if Rudder could be that much of a help, if not I would suggest ship yes. At the moment a level 3 crew of Bowl outmatches a level 7 crew from scythe. But then you got to drop a bit of success rate. On the other hand it is already though to get good missions with even 3 ships =/ A <50% chance on a 4th ship is still better than 0% on no ship (again, this assumes lifeboats, otherwise risk of deaths makes everything muddier). Dragon Drops : 5 Dragon Medium Helmets, 3 Dragon Claws, 3 Dragon platelegs, 2 Dragon plateskirts, 2 Dragon Hatchets, 2 Dragon Spears, 7 pairs of Dragon Boots, 1 Dragon pickaxe, 10 Dragon defenders, 3 Dragon 2h swords, 1 Dragon armour Slice, 1 Dragon armour Lump, 1 Dragon chainbody, 1 Dragon kiteshield, 1 Dragon hasta, 1 Dragon ward, 25 Dragon knives pairsThe Warrior's Blog , Herblore Habitat - Efficient and profitable[hide=Stats and logs].:Adventurer's Log:.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumpta Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'd advise against getting the rudder first. I got it and regretted it. Only gives +200 speed compared with the cherrywood one. For reference, the best attainable Bowl voyage time is 6:57 if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconut Bodywash Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'd advise against getting the rudder first. I got it and regretted it. Only gives +200 speed compared with the cherrywood one. For reference, the best attainable Bowl voyage time is 6:57 if I'm not mistaken.Friend said his times went from avg 9 hours to avg 7 hours on bowl with the rudder upgrade, I'm definitely going for it first. Thx to MxM for parts of the sig! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Lord Dan Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'd advise against getting the rudder first. I got it and regretted it. Only gives +200 speed compared with the cherrywood one. For reference, the best attainable Bowl voyage time is 6:57 if I'm not mistaken.Friend said his times went from avg 9 hours to avg 7 hours on bowl with the rudder upgrade, I'm definitely going for it first. Putting a Bureaucrat/Judge of dice on your boat does that as well. How many hotdogs does it take to mow a garage door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sponske Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'd advise against getting the rudder first. I got it and regretted it. Only gives +200 speed compared with the cherrywood one. For reference, the best attainable Bowl voyage time is 6:57 if I'm not mistaken.Friend said his times went from avg 9 hours to avg 7 hours on bowl with the rudder upgrade, I'm definitely going for it first.I found this on the wiki, so i dont know if this information is correct.But for the Bowl region: if you have speed under 1700 it will take 9h24, but if you have 2300 speed it will take 6h57.Getting more speed than 2300 wouldnt decrease the voyage time any further.An enchanted rudder gives +1000speed, a skeletal rudder +1200.So it depends on the speed lvl of your crewmembers/captain if you should upgrade or not i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTheory Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 So far I'm 12/12 successful bowl voyages on about 70-85% rate, something doesn't seem right lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celery n Corn Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Am I carrying too many merchants or beuracrats? Also I have 2 seawith and 2 Feral Chim. Im 57% through Hook should I stick with this crew or look to add more of something else? I have three ships Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Replace every seafaring guy with a witch. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Lord Dan Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Replace every seafaring guy with a witch. Half and half ignore this. Replace maybe one or two more with witches, but keep a few of the base seafarers to abuse Solidarity a little more. How many hotdogs does it take to mow a garage door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphanos Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Edit :Sold (its editted the real price is 5.5M). I can see that the screenshot was edited - look at the space between "of" and the price in the bottom line. But why did you bother to edit the screenshot before posting? This is presumably some kind of attempt at market manipulation, and rather than 5.5M you sold for 3.5M or 7.5M. Regarding speed in Bowl, standard length voyages have max 9:24 at 1700 speed and min 6:57 at 2300 speed. From my experience, you'll probably need two of these three things on a voyage to get max speed:The Bowl's rudder.A Solidarity crew member.A 10k-chime captain, or a lower-tier captain focused in speed.You don't need all three. If you have a lot of crew members who rolled with innate bonuses to speed, maybe you'll even be able to get away with only one. However having the rudder can offer you some more flexibility in arranging your crews. It's definitey worth getting your speed up to 2300 or close to it. At default voyage times, you can only do two sets per day, while with minimum voyage times you can do three sets if your schedule allows. Alphanos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estoc Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 So I just "came back with the mission partially complete" to unlock the Judge of Dice. I go and use my last crew re-rolls and lo and behold I get a Judge of Dice? From the empty days of hope, deny the darknessFollow my voice, we'll run far away from hereIf only to hide, to escape this lifeAnd live forever, forever in the sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Everything resets at 6pm for me so here is my plan now that I'm in the bowl. 10pm: send out 3 or 4 bowl voyages6am:send out 3 or 4 bowl voyages5-5:59 pm: send out 3 or 4 scythe missions. This allows me to do 9-12 voyages per day maximizing my distance and resources that are worth while. If I could work it I would go something along the lines of:5pm send out 3 or 4 bowl voyagesmidnight: send out 3 or 4 bowl voyages7 am send out 3 or 4 bowl voyages2 pm send out 3 or 4 bowl voyages OR 3 or 4 scythe voyages. Doing this method I would be looking at 9-12 bowl voyages and 3 or 4 scythe voyages per day.If the timing could actually work like that + have enough speed bonus this would be ideal, however with fluctuations on when I get home from work I don't see this happening, which is why I'm doing the first set. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celery n Corn Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 So I just "came back with the mission partially complete" to unlock the Judge of Dice. I go and use my last crew re-rolls and lo and behold I get a Judge of Dice?Pretty sure this exact thing happened to me but with the Sea Witch got a lol out of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane_Rift Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 So I just "came back with the mission partially complete" to unlock the Judge of Dice. I go and use my last crew re-rolls and lo and behold I get a Judge of Dice? If you have an Opportunist on board this will still unlock the new crew member. ~ Arcane Rift ~:: 99 Smithing - 2007-03-04 :: :: :: 99 Crafting - 2007-06-18 :: 99 Fletching - 2007-08-27 :::: :: 99 Strength - 2009-05-28 :: :: :: :::: :: :: 99 Prayer - 2011-11-27 :: :: 99 Slayer - 2012-01-15 :::: :: 99 Summoning - 2012-12-07 :: 99 Firemaking - 2012-12-09 :: 99 Woodcutting - 2013-01-17 :: 99 Mining - 2013-01-31 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syd Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yay. Got to bowl finally. Damn voyages are taking forever though.. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emaxganis Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'd advise against getting the rudder first. I got it and regretted it. Only gives +200 speed compared with the cherrywood one. For reference, the best attainable Bowl voyage time is 6:57 if I'm not mistaken.Friend said his times went from avg 9 hours to avg 7 hours on bowl with the rudder upgrade, I'm definitely going for it first. Putting a Bureaucrat/Judge of dice on your boat does that as well.This I think its much more important to get all crew before thinking of getting anything else, if you happen to unlock judge of dice on the way get it aswell only then one should think in upgrading ship/hoarding for 4th ship else when you get further deep in the region high reqs are going to kick ur ass :P Rule #14 - Don't argue with trolls, it means they win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'd advise against getting the rudder first. I got it and regretted it. Only gives +200 speed compared with the cherrywood one. For reference, the best attainable Bowl voyage time is 6:57 if I'm not mistaken.Friend said his times went from avg 9 hours to avg 7 hours on bowl with the rudder upgrade, I'm definitely going for it first.This could help on weekends but if you are in full time education/job then the 2 hours might not allow you to make a 2nd voyage. Does a palmist's "good fortune" make your voyage more likely to be successful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emaxganis Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I'd advise against getting the rudder first. I got it and regretted it. Only gives +200 speed compared with the cherrywood one. For reference, the best attainable Bowl voyage time is 6:57 if I'm not mistaken.Friend said his times went from avg 9 hours to avg 7 hours on bowl with the rudder upgrade, I'm definitely going for it first.This could help on weekends but if you are in full time education/job then the 2 hours might not allow you to make a 2nd voyage. Does a palmist's "good fortune" make your voyage more likely to be successful?afaik all a palmist's does is to increase the chance of getting a random from a voyage Rule #14 - Don't argue with trolls, it means they win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobzy Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Gah - I unlocked the sea with island 7 days ago - never had a sea witch for hire. Randomness is al what RS is based around but this is ridiculous. Just be grateful you had the mission, been in scthye for a week, about 60% done and not received the mission to unlock the Seawitch... That is rediculous, at least you have a chance of unlocking the Sea Witch, but if i can't get the mission then i can't get a chance of a sea witch... All that cherry wood wasted on cartographers... I think you didn't really read/understand my post... What use is unlocking the island and then not getting any chance to recruit the unit? I literally had 7*15 + 5*5 (rerolls) = 130 chances to get one and didn't get any. I would rather have the mission be rare and then plenty of opportunity to recruit the unit once you unlock the island... Well finally I have managed to recruit to my first sea witch - directly follower by number 2. At least I have 2 but it took really absurdly long for one to pop by - at least 250 crew members rolled before the first one appeared. "He really calls himself Noobz?" [hide=STATS][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurrah Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 If you switch back to the arc whilst you've unlocked the scythe do you still get distance towards the next region if you focus on the arc for bamboo missions? Want a third ship tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 If you switch back to the arc whilst you've unlocked the scythe do you still get distance towards the next region if you focus on the arc for bamboo missions? Want a third ship tbh.Yaah... By the way after unlocking another region ever other region under that one gives you half the distance. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 If you switch back to the arc whilst you've unlocked the scythe do you still get distance towards the next region if you focus on the arc for bamboo missions? Want a third ship tbh.Iirc Gwyn said distance is halved for voyages not from the furthest region you have unlocked. But you do get a bit of distance. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurrah Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Thanks :) Gonna have to get a third ship at some point anyway so may aswell do now before voyage length gets super long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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