Jagex Attempting to Stop Monopolies?

[dragon312]

The only thing this reaches is that they will buy a larger range of items and manipulate more markets, so good job Jagex :roll:

[Apv301]

First of all Omali I pay via SMS, so I pay $10 a month, and not everyone has a ton of money to spend,so until you understand the value of a dollar and not plastic Stifle it. :shame:

 

 

 

Second, while I'm too poor to make a profit. Simple supply and demand will ALWAYS apply. So all you people with a ton of items just hold onto them all. Don't sell one till the value of an item goes off the charts, or Jagex lifts the restrictions (fat chance on the latter)

 

 

 

Third, Jagex will never care for there users, you think membership pays for the site? No way! All those worlds and pages each having a different ad. Jagex is making a profit on advertising alone.

 

 

 

Lastly, you already know Jagex doesn't care about the users. So what makes you think they won't remove player to player trading. And make Lending or the G.E. the only option for items.

[Omar]

First of all Omali I pay via SMS, so I pay $10 a month, and not everyone has a ton of money to spend,so until you understand the value of a dollar and not plastic Stifle it. :shame:

 

That has nothing to do with it. He meant on Jagex's point of view, him quitting isn't a problem at all. as in, they couldn't care less.

 

 

 

Second, while I'm too poor to make a profit. Simple supply and demand will ALWAYS apply. So all you people with a ton of items just hold onto them all. Don't sell one till the value of an item goes off the charts, or Jagex lifts the restrictions (fat chance on the latter)

 

 

 

Third, Jagex will never care for there users, you think membership pays for the site? No way! All those worlds and pages each having a different ad. Jagex is making a profit on advertising alone.

 

Nothing to say...

 

 

 

Lastly, you already know Jagex doesn't care about the users. So what makes you think they won't remove player to player trading. And make Lending or the G.E. the only option for items.

 

Because it's not for the good of the game? It's stupid to say they don't care about members, the more members, the more money they make. They have no reason to remove trading, because it doesn't cause a problem. It's like those people that were wondering whether chatting would ever be removed when QChat came out...

[Apv301]

ok, I see what you mean now Omali, I appologise I'll stifle it :-#

 

 

 

I never said they would take it away, I meant what makes us think this is even close to the end? Who knows what they have in mind.

 

Although Jagex continually makes me angry I stay a member because I do enjoy it. And are you serious people honestly thought they would stop chat?

 

 

 

The real question becomes, what beloved or hated Runescape feature is the next to fall or be modded?

[Ducata]

This calls for a bail out!

[Zygimantas]

More restrictions \ Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeayi :D

 

 

 

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Restrictions ftw! Dictatorship ftw! :thumbsup:

[Omar]

 

Although Jagex continually makes me angry I stay a member because I do enjoy it. And are you serious people honestly thought they would stop chat?

 

 

Entirely serious, but I can't be bothered to dig it up. It's in General though.

[SwreeTak]

Doesn't effect me so.. meh \

 

Me neither, and it actually affects rather few people. I mean, how many merchants with party hats these days? :P

[Mitchart]

a control should be done on street prices....

 

 

 

I have been trying for weeks to get hold of the new shields...they can only be traded for 3a junk....an elysian and divine shield is costing around 300mil street price which makes it totally impossible for normal users which are a majority to get these. I had 3a and had as well animal masks but without huge amount of junk they are unsellable...so what is the use of these ? to show off ? I prefer having 200mil cash then a 3a melee plate which is only 44mil without junk.

[Bonus]

Nice job Jagex, finally another thing you did right.

 

 

 

This will also slow down people who RWT. (BHing sara sets, etc, lol.)

[Qeauxraline]

Jagex has, and always will hate merchants and rares.

 

 

 

Personally, I hate the new update, because it makes the economy more socialist rather than capitalist.

[999134]

jagex have hated rares because someone makes a huge amount of money for doing nothing and as the items where meant for fun it sort of ruined there point :roll:

 

but i think after letting the pumpkin become trabable they should have made all holiday items tradeable

[M4nLyk0wnz]

hmm..Jagex has always hated merchants. It doesnt really affect me because i very rarely merchant and buy a lot of things from the ge in a bulk

 

 

 

But i suppose some parts are for the best but i know that this is going to annoy a few players.

[vivimancer]

Ok, a few things...

 

 

 

Jagex does not hate merchants or rares. They dislike rich speculators un-balancing their game for no good reason other than they can...

 

For the American 'scapers out there Jagex is a British based company and seem to have an inherent "British" quality that things should be fair or at least seem to be fair

 

And if its [edit]ing the types that whinge and say 'your ruining my fun as i can't try and buy 10 god swords any more' then tough frankly, no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to play Rs.

[Soma2035]

Ok, a few things...

 

 

 

Jagex does not hate merchants or rares. They dislike rich speculators un-balancing their game for no good reason other than they can...

 

For the American 'scapers out there Jagex is a British based company and seem to have an inherent "British" quality that things should be fair or at least seem to be fair

 

And if its [edit]ing the types that whinge and say 'your ruining my fun as i can't try and buy 10 god swords any more' then tough frankly, no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to play Rs.

 

 

 

That last statement is not necessarily true. Figuratively, the amount of time and money you've spent playing Runescape already is already a "gun to your head". You can't really just pick up and leave after a minor change you don't agree with, because you've effectively spent hundreds of hours and probably plenty of money too.

 

 

 

So while you're not literally forced to leave, Jagex does in a way threaten you. You can't get a refund of the money you spent, you certainly can't get a refund of time. You can quit, but any potential fun you've earned for yourself by training your character high, or earning a lot of money, all goes to waste. New bosses, new items, you can't enjoy any of that even though you've earned your right to it, if you decide to quit. And if you come back there's a penalty to. You need to pay higher membership fees for a year if you don't come back soon enough.

[Huta]

I am glad this update was put into the game, hopefully now the "junk" trades will start to slow down and the greedy merchants won't be able to cheat as many people out of their hard earned money.

 

 

 

Ignorance is bliss.

[Sly_Wizard]

Ok, a few things...

 

 

 

Jagex does not hate merchants or rares. They dislike rich speculators un-balancing their game for no good reason other than they can...

 

For the American 'scapers out there Jagex is a British based company and seem to have an inherent "British" quality that things should be fair or at least seem to be fair

 

And if its [edit]ing the types that whinge and say 'your ruining my fun as i can't try and buy 10 god swords any more' then tough frankly, no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to play Rs.

 

 

 

The British? Fair? Mercantilism anyone. Bankrupting it's colonies while profiting at the same time wasn't "fair" by any definition of the word.

 

 

 

Anywho, if you have the money to buy ten GS's an hour and the ability to merchant them, why shouldn't you be allowed to? No one can give me any valid reason as to why it's wrong.

[Sam]

I am glad this update was put into the game, hopefully now the "junk" trades will start to slow down and the greedy merchants won't be able to cheat as many people out of their hard earned money.

 

 

 

I totally agree with you.

[Tbfgraphx14]

Awww no more grand exchange merchanting :cry: :cry: I was ready to start up again too.

[dragon246665]

honestly I think there should be no trade limits at all, if this were the case more people would need/want to go kill monsters to get the really powerful weapons/armor/other but in order to do that they will need good food and to get good food you need people who fish and the people who fish want to sell their stuff for a good price. Now if your using magic there is still expensive armor to buy and if you want to train you will need runes and for runes you need runecrafters or if your alching runecrafters and woodcutters and fletchers, not to mention fishers and people with a high enough cooking level to cook the food. Now much of the same goes for range as well. Also players will want various potions and for that you will need players with a high herblore level. All in all this is what makes the economy go round, high level players going out and "making" the finished product and eventually that money trickles back to the people who sold their food/potions/whetever. Now if you say "you can only buy a few of these and some of that then some people won't want to say, go out and fish because their prices are going down so that means that monster hunters don't go out and kill dangerous monsters because it is no longer profitable" and that means that nobody buys say runes anymore or nobody needs higher magic levels so just like that runecrafters woodcutters and fletchers arn't getting money. Also trade limits, well, limit the things you can do because if you need 15 godswords because you are selling them back at a higher price or just want a stockpile of them then you are entitled to buy them. Also there is a constand demand for high level armor/weaopns because if you died in a tragic accident at a monster cave somewhere then you need new armor to replace it. All in all trade limits are actually hurting the economy for everyone.

[Grogthurk]

lol no at the person above me

[killerbeer0]

The elite and those who kiss elite arse are negatively affected by this. No one else gives a damn.

[Turnpike]

I agree with the one fella, get rid of the merchants. Cheating the hard workers out of their money. Amen. :thumbup:

[Lord_Firer]

Ok, a few things...

 

 

 

Jagex does not hate merchants or rares. They dislike rich speculators un-balancing their game for no good reason other than they can...

 

For the American 'scapers out there Jagex is a British based company and seem to have an inherent "British" quality that things should be fair or at least seem to be fair

 

And if its [edit]ing the types that whinge and say 'your ruining my fun as i can't try and buy 10 god swords any more' then tough frankly, no one is holding a gun to your head forcing you to play Rs.

 

 

 

The British? Fair? Mercantilism anyone. Bankrupting it's colonies while profiting at the same time wasn't "fair" by any definition of the word.

 

 

 

Anywho, if you have the money to buy ten GS's an hour and the ability to merchant them, why shouldn't you be allowed to? No one can give me any valid reason as to why it's wrong.

 

 

 

Are you serious? Merchanting benefits no one other than the merchanter. They push prices up to unreasonable highs for the profit. They are Runescapes version of the CEO's of big companies today. Why should the average Joe (Josephine if your a girl) have to pay more for the items they actually USE?

 

 

 

 

honestly I think there should be no trade limits at all, if this were the case more people would need/want to go kill monsters to get the really powerful weapons/armor/other but in order to do that they will need good food and to get good food you need people who fish and the people who fish want to sell their stuff for a good price. Now if your using magic there is still expensive armor to buy and if you want to train you will need runes and for runes you need runecrafters or if your alching runecrafters and woodcutters and fletchers, not to mention fishers and people with a high enough cooking level to cook the food. Now much of the same goes for range as well. Also players will want various potions and for that you will need players with a high herblore level. All in all this is what makes the economy go round, high level players going out and "making" the finished product and eventually that money trickles back to the people who sold their food/potions/whetever. Now if you say "you can only buy a few of these and some of that then some people won't want to say, go out and fish because their prices are going down so that means that monster hunters don't go out and kill dangerous monsters because it is no longer profitable" and that means that nobody buys say runes anymore or nobody needs higher magic levels so just like that runecrafters woodcutters and fletchers ain't getting money. Also trade limits, well, limit the things you can do because if you need 15 godswords because you are selling them back at a higher price or just want a stockpile of them then you are entitled to buy them. Also there is a constand demand for high level armor/weaopns because if you died in a tragic accident at a monster cave somewhere then you need new armor to replace it. All in all trade limits are actually hurting the economy for everyone.

 

 

 

Ok, I think your post was irrelevant to the discussion, but anyway, down the bottom you say:

 

 

 

"Also trade limits, well, limit the things you can do because if you need 15 godswords because you are selling them back at a higher price or just want a stockpile of them then you are entitled to buy them."

 

 

 

No one NEEDS to stockpiles 15 gs so in case they die, they can just go fetch a new one. And even if that was so, they could buy them over 1 day, no need to get it right here and now. Only reason anyone would ever stock pile gs would be to merchant. Thats fine, but when you get to price manipulation, it is a greed act.

 

 

 

Prices should reflect the supply and demand of people using the item, not the manipulated price.

 

 

 

And Killerbeer0, :thumbup: :thumbsup: :thumbup: :thumbsup: :thumbup: :thumbsup:

[Bini]

Awww no more grand exchange merchanting :cry: :cry: I was ready to start up again too.

 

No merchanting? :-w

 

For some of you maybe but for me...I won't stop unless they make it impossible for us to trade anyone in the game.

 

 

 

And people, merchanting isn't cheating it's emergent gameplay which I think Jagex is trying to get rid off in some areas. I am also a "hard-woker" but just because I am that doesn't mean I am poor and should blame the rich merchanters. I have more than enough and I have not hurt a single soul to make it.

 

 

 

 

 

You can't put legit merchanters in the same category as price-manipulators!

 

 

 

A mercahnter sees an ooportunity to make some money of an item, maybe because he knows its price will rise in the near future or because he knows he can buy it for a lower price than some people are willing to pay.

 

 

 

A price-manipulator tries to change the price to fit his/their own liking.

 

For example, he tries to lower the price of an item or rise the price of an item so it only benefits him. He spreads false rumors, posts etc. that the price of the item he wants to change is going to rise/fall that way he can get people to buy/sell.

 

Hurts the people that are selling/buying but it benefits him.

 

 

 

 

 

Just because you are ignorant/jealous/whatever, doesn't mean you can bash on merchanters without any solid facts.