Urza285 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 3 JoD, 3 ox head, 2 merch, 6 of each base crew. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emaxganis Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 3 JoD, 3 ox head, 2 merch, 6 of each base crew.Actually, i'd have 4 merch once you finish everything and have maxed crew, since you will only be interested in trade good missions anyways there is a good possibility that you can get 4 trade good missions at the same time. Rule #14 - Don't argue with trolls, it means they win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 3 JoD, 3 ox head, 2 merch, 6 of each base crew.Actually, i'd have 4 merch once you finish everything and have maxed crew, since you will only be interested in trade good missions anyways there is a good possibility that you can get 4 trade good missions at the same time.Can't you only have one of each trade good mission out at a time? I know 5 and non-5 is possible, but you can only merchant the 5 ones, so... :unsure:If focusing on plate/lacquer, optimal crew would be 3 merchants, rest multi-talented oxheads? :lol: ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoko Kurama Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I have all the PoP sets, and am only finishing up scrolls these days and getting 2nd sets. I have 4 Oxheads now and 2 Merchants. Should I bother getting a 3rd merchant? I am maxed with regards to buildings and ship upgrades. I also have plenty of resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_Warrior Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Also, what's the best endgame trade goods crew setup? Right now I have 6 combat, 5 morale and seafare, 3 JODs, 2 Merchants, 1 Jade golem, 1 Sea witch and 1 Ox. Actually, that's only 24, so I probably have 1 more morale/seafare. That setup has done just fine for me so far, but I imagine it can be better. Best trade goods set-up is 6 Harem, 4 FTR, 5 TB, 4 OHHF, 3 JoD and 3 JM.Best all-round set-up (ie: for xp/scrolls too), is 5/5/5 rather than 5/4/6 in your basics. Dragon Drops : 5 Dragon Medium Helmets, 3 Dragon Claws, 3 Dragon platelegs, 2 Dragon plateskirts, 2 Dragon Hatchets, 2 Dragon Spears, 7 pairs of Dragon Boots, 1 Dragon pickaxe, 10 Dragon defenders, 3 Dragon 2h swords, 1 Dragon armour Slice, 1 Dragon armour Lump, 1 Dragon chainbody, 1 Dragon kiteshield, 1 Dragon hasta, 1 Dragon ward, 25 Dragon knives pairsThe Warrior's Blog , Herblore Habitat - Efficient and profitable[hide=Stats and logs].:Adventurer's Log:.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 3 JoD, 3 ox head, 2 merch, 6 of each base crew.Seriously? You just had two pages about this in the last week. It's been proven time and time again. 5/5/5/4/3/3 is the best setup. Stop saying otherwise. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 3 JoD, 3 ox head, 2 merch, 6 of each base crew.Seriously? You just had two pages about this in the last week. It's been proven time and time again. 5/5/5/4/3/3 is the best setup. Stop saying otherwise.555433 is best overall before you max port and ship, but after that point, three merchants are hardly ever if at all needed. I'd also like for someone to tell me a reason to have more than 3 ox other than getting an extra 200 jod bonus in dual while still being able to do a triple for trade goods, because, as far as i can tell, you never need more than 3 ox for two relatively rare missions that you are not likely to have two at a time(for which you'd need 6, anyway). First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Who cares... I'm just giving personal advice. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Who cares... I'm just giving personal advice. The trouble is when people ask for THE best setup you should give them THE best setup. Not your personal preference unless you clearly phrase it say it is YOUR preference and not THE best setup. It's misleading and incorrect otherwise. I mean if someone asked for the best Barrows run gear you wouldn't just say 'Full bronze with a rune scimitar.' because you happen to do it that way out of choice. This is the same thing, you are giving a false answer by not making clear you are giving your personal choice which you full well know is NOT inline with the mathematically proven best which they asked for. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 My point is I don't care. I felt my set up works good and I'm throwing it out there regardless of what anyone has to say. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunokiller Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 My point is I don't care. I felt my set up works good and I'm throwing it out there regardless of what anyone has to say. That attitude appears to be a big problem in the real world too. 10 My blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 My point is I don't care. I felt my set up works good and I'm throwing it out there regardless of what anyone has to say.Which you are perfectly entitled to do. Issues only arise because you 'throw it out there' as a direct response to people asking for the best setup without making clear it is your personal preference. I mean how hard is it to write 'Personally I like...' or 'I like to use...' or 'I find...works well' opposed to just flat out stating your setup without context leading to the flawed representation that what you are saying is the best setup when it is not as proven by the thorough mathematical research done by others. Questions here should be treated just as they are under H&A forum rules (as near as possible): Alternate answers should not be given without the actual answer being given. In this cause you personal preference is an alternate answer and should be prefaced to make it clear it is the case otherwise you are just misleading people when you give it as a direct answer. 1 Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Ill let you preface it for me. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emaxganis Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 3 JoD, 3 ox head, 2 merch, 6 of each base crew.Actually, i'd have 4 merch once you finish everything and have maxed crew, since you will only be interested in trade good missions anyways there is a good possibility that you can get 4 trade good missions at the same time.Can't you only have one of each trade good mission out at a time? I know 5 and non-5 is possible, but you can only merchant the 5 ones, so... :unsure:If focusing on plate/lacquer, optimal crew would be 3 merchants, rest multi-talented oxheads? :lol: Many days 3 would be enough, but there is a chance you get e.g. laqcer and chi on the special voyages(2 separate ships) and then you roll your regular voyages and get plate and bones maybe. You'd want merchants on all of them. Rule #14 - Don't argue with trolls, it means they win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mylez Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Who ever said JoD was rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Nobody, oxheads are a problem, judges aren't :P. I typically use my 4 oxheads for when I get plate & laquer normal voyages, so I can send judge + 3 ox + merch and still have an ox left for another double. I send oxheads on all doubles and triples, just like I send judges on all doubles and triples, but where I only send 1 judge per ship, oxheads are 'stackable' so an extra is nice. Questions here should be treated just as they are under H&A forum rules (as near as possible): Alternate answers should not be given without the actual answer being given. In this cause you personal preference is an alternate answer and should be prefaced to make it clear it is the case otherwise you are just misleading people when you give it as a direct answer.This is very true. If you are giving suboptimal advice, explain:1) Why it is suboptimal.2) What is optimal.3) If you want, explain why you prefer the suboptimal setup. Especially @Urza because you said you don't care about this baseline for advice. That's enough said about this, if someone breaks the rules, report, otherwise no need to discuss. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayc3399 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I personally had 2 days in a row with joint missions + scrolls. I took the scroll which didn't require a merchant, then did the other half of the pair with a merchant. I then preceded to roll 5 regular trade good missions each day. Any idea how much trouble I had completing all of those with a merchant on board. 3 is the bare minimum you should have. Quest Cape Achieved on November 14, 2007Items AcquiredCrystal Pick and HatchetBerzerker Ring x 33/28 Barrows Items Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I AM NEVER EVER GOING TO FINISH SUPERIOR ARMOUR SETS IF THIS KEEPS [bleep]ING HAPPENINGDIDNT EVEN GET A DAMN SCROLL VOYAGE TO ACCOMPANY IT Appropriate ship name. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J35u5_M4 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I AM NEVER EVER GOING TO FINISH SUPERIOR ARMOUR SETS IF THIS KEEPS [bleep]ING HAPPENINGDIDNT EVEN GET A DAMN SCROLL VOYAGE TO ACCOMPANY IT Appropriate ship name. I KNOW THE PAIN, IT HAPPENED TO ME LIKE 2 DAYS AGO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_Warrior Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 3 JoD, 3 ox head, 2 merch, 6 of each base crew.Seriously? You just had two pages about this in the last week. It's been proven time and time again. 5/5/5/4/3/3 is the best setup. Stop saying otherwise.555433 is best overall before you max port and ship, but after that point, three merchants are hardly ever if at all needed. I'd also like for someone to tell me a reason to have more than 3 ox other than getting an extra 200 jod bonus in dual while still being able to do a triple for trade goods, because, as far as i can tell, you never need more than 3 ox for two relatively rare missions that you are not likely to have two at a time(for which you'd need 6, anyway). Actually, with the totem upgrade, I get trade good voyages in my Standard voyage tab with startling frequency.I don't think 3 Merchants is excessive. 1 Dragon Drops : 5 Dragon Medium Helmets, 3 Dragon Claws, 3 Dragon platelegs, 2 Dragon plateskirts, 2 Dragon Hatchets, 2 Dragon Spears, 7 pairs of Dragon Boots, 1 Dragon pickaxe, 10 Dragon defenders, 3 Dragon 2h swords, 1 Dragon armour Slice, 1 Dragon armour Lump, 1 Dragon chainbody, 1 Dragon kiteshield, 1 Dragon hasta, 1 Dragon ward, 25 Dragon knives pairsThe Warrior's Blog , Herblore Habitat - Efficient and profitable[hide=Stats and logs].:Adventurer's Log:.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troacctid Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Now that I have all the scrolls I need, I think it's time to replace my telescope with a parrot so I can start getting slayer and herblore xp instead of spices and bones. Read my blog | Follow me on Twitter | Track my XP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Actually, with the totem upgrade, I get trade good voyages in my Standard voyage tab with startling frequency.I don't think 3 Merchants is excessive.Even if you're still hunting for port resources, you'll get a lot of use out of merchants. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Actually, with the totem upgrade, I get trade good voyages in my Standard voyage tab with startling frequency.I don't think 3 Merchants is excessive.Even if you're still hunting for port resources, you'll get a lot of use out of merchants. I no longer need any Resources, just Trade Goods and Scrolls. Hence I'm changing 1 merchant to a Oxhead. Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Finished rocktail soup and tetsu legs crafted to finish my tetsu set. I just sent out a 5 lacquer voyage that will be me at 52/100 lacquer for death lotus chest. I'm still 15 chi from sea singer bottom. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J35u5_M4 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Finally had a good day at ports, got scroll voyage as one special and the other was 5 bones (too bad I have 250 of those, so I took the 25k prayer voyage). Then I rolled 5 chi, 5 plate and 5 lacquer :D. Now if that scroll succeeds I can finally use those 250 spices and start collecting scrolls for vamp scrimshaw! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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