Sy_Accursed Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Forget other MMO's just grasp of general language and marketing.Loyalty Rewards = rewards for being loyal.Rewards = gifts/status aka not paid something you bought.Loyalty = being a continued customer and thus showing brand loyalty Ergo loyalty rewards are gonna be free stoofs for being a loyal runescape customer.It's a clever way to get people to buy membership. I am 99% sure that Jagex's plan with the "Loyalty" crap is about money. And i bet there will be players going around with these "auras" thinking "I am loyal". Reality is, and with Dave chappelle voice:NO b1tch your a addict! Yeah loyalty schemes are all about brand loyalty and thus profit. Just saying loyalty scheme doesn't logically suggest microtransactions which cost extra money, as some people immediately jumped too, at all really. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmentail Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 *looks at BTS*.....*goes to watch some paint dry* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I had more issue with the fact that they somehow tried to compare years of paying for members and being loyal to the game to people who have played 5 years+ on f2p and then got members just to get a goofy cape. I realize that it might not be feasible, but it certainly is a bit insulting no matter how they explain it. Meh non-members are just gonna have to cry a river.They aint gonna give loyalty rewards out to people who aint earning them profit.It'd be like your storecards giving u points when you dont shop there. Sure f2pers may be loyal to the game, but they aren't a loyal customer as such since they don't pay; just a fact of life really you're not gonna get rewards for not earning the company revenue. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 *looks at BTS*.....*goes to watch some paint dry* That sounds eerily like the same thing. >_> I had more issue with the fact that they somehow tried to compare years of paying for members and being loyal to the game to people who have played 5 years+ on f2p and then got members just to get a goofy cape. I realize that it might not be feasible, but it certainly is a bit insulting no matter how they explain it. Meh non-members are just gonna have to cry a river.They aint gonna give loyalty rewards out to people who aint earning them profit.It'd be like your storecards giving u points when you dont shop there. Sure f2pers may be loyal to the game, but they aren't a loyal customer as such since they don't pay; just a fact of life really you're not gonna get rewards for not earning the company revenue. *scratches head* Maybe it's not clear that I'm saying I've been paying for members for years (and still intend to) and I'm getting the shaft here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcneilp Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Didn't like the idea of loyalty points when I first read it but it doesn't seem as bad now we've a rough idea what it's all about. It all depends on how good these auras are and what effect they'll have. I also reckon some kind of compromise between the entire time you've had your account and the entire time you've had that account subscribed to members should be used to calculate how "loyal" you've been. I know the whole "Jagex are a buisness" spiel but it seems excluding people who've played your free version for x number of years (which is loyalty, in my book) from some (possibly) aesthetic rewards is a bit daft. It isn't in the castle, It isn't in the mist, It's a calling of the waters, As they break to show, The new Black Death, With reactors aglow, Do you think your security, Can keep you in purity, You will not shake us off above or belowScottish frictionScottish fiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel555555 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Quest seems maby like an rs version of the great white whale. Wonder if we will get swallowed and have to kill it from the inside if it is indeed as big as the wizards tower. I'm looking forward to the d&d. It seems like a stepping stone to a tower defense game for rs. If they put one of those on rs i'll never play another online game again. Witholding judgment on the loyalty things until they come out and we see just how long it will take to get them. I am a bit dissapointed that they won't be using previouse membership for rewards. It won't really be about loyalty then. It will just be people getting membership for the rewards. [spoiler=click you know you wanna]Me behave? Seriously? As a child I saw Tarzan almost naked, Cinderella arrived home from a party after midnight, Pinocchio told lies, Aladin was a thief, Batman drove over 200 miles an hour, Snow White lived in a house with seven men, Popeye smoked a pipe and had tattoos, Pac man ran around to digital music while eating pills that enhanced his performance, and Shaggy and Scooby were mystery solving hippies who always had the munchies. The fault is not mine! if you had this childhood and loved it put this in your signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 *scratches head* Maybe it's not clear that I'm saying I've been paying for members for years (and still intend to) and I'm getting the shaft here. No-ones getting shafted. Its rewarding loyalty from release day onwards.Every starts level pegging.Past loyalty is irrelevant. It's like when a store has been around for ages and then launches a store card you don't get rewards for what has gone before. It rewards loyalty from then on. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 It's like when a store has been around for ages and then launches a store card you don't get rewards for what has gone before. It rewards loyalty from then on. You're comparing apples to oranges when you compare things like BestBuy rewards to online game subscriptions. No-ones getting shafted. ... Past loyalty is irrelevant. So that's your definition of no one getting the crappy end of the deal? I understand and accept that there's probably no better way for them to do this, save giving those who have been paying for x-years prior to this the increased Loyalty Credit rate to start with. I can't understand how they can compare 'rewarding loyalty' to how one can obtain the veterans cape and not expect some of their older, longterm paying members who didn't need 'auras' to make them pay as a way of saying, "Well you're wrong!" And then users on this thread are saying that people like us aren't getting dirt in their eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 It's like when a store has been around for ages and then launches a store card you don't get rewards for what has gone before. It rewards loyalty from then on. You're comparing apples to oranges when you compare things like BestBuy rewards to online game subscriptions. No-ones getting shafted. ... Past loyalty is irrelevant. So that's your definition of no one getting the crappy end of the deal? I understand and accept that there's probably no better way for them to do this, save giving those who have been paying for x-years prior to this the increased Loyalty Credit rate to start with. I can't understand how they can compare 'rewarding loyalty' to how one can obtain the veterans cape and not expect some of their older, longterm paying members who didn't need 'auras' to make them pay as a way of saying, "Well you're wrong!" And then users on this thread are saying that people like us aren't getting dirt in their eye. Well, as you've just pointed out, there IS no better way for them to introduce loyalty points. Yeah, it kinda sucks for people who have paid for membership for the past 5 years straight, but otherwise you'd punish people who haven't paid it for 5 years straight because they had no incentive to. Only other way that's fair is not introducing these loyalty points. Actually, I like that idea XD Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 So that's your definition of no one getting the crappy end of the deal? I understand and accept that there's probably no better way for them to do this, save giving those who have been paying for x-years prior to this the increased Loyalty Credit rate to start with. I can't understand how they can compare 'rewarding loyalty' to how one can obtain the veterans cape and not expect some of their older, longterm paying members who didn't need 'auras' to make them pay as a way of saying, "Well you're wrong!" And then users on this thread are saying that people like us aren't getting dirt in their eye.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13ZDgwUhZZ8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salad Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Everyone panicking. The BTS this month just sucks. It won't ruin the game, it's just boring. Nothing to worry about. Nothing 'game breaking'. Just boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AfkScape Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I hope the troll thing will be worth doing once a month for runecrafting xp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlanders Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 That loyalty thing is just so people keep paying for membership even on months when they would otherwise not because they're not active enough to justify the price, or taking a break. It's all about money. Probably now some people are going to subscribe nonstop for the next few years regardless if they're actually logging in or not. 2480+ total Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracleman58 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 That loyalty thing is just so people keep paying for membership even on months when they would otherwise not because they're not active enough to justify the price, or taking a break. It's all about money. Probably now some people are going to subscribe nonstop for the next few years regardless if they're actually logging in or not. This, If i wanted to take a break but was close to some good 'loyal' item i'd just let my members carry on for a measly £3.50 a month. 1593th to 99 Farming - July 08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 ^That means though, that paying for a month and not playing at all would have an advantage over not paying and not playing. Which, I'd say, is a way to sell the auras etc. I don't think the game should be influenced by the transactions around it. [qfc]234-235-79-62840351[/qfc] ^Posted on page 4. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Saradomin help us all. Brb buying a grandmaster aura. I can't remember a month with less content then this one. I'll be leaving for the last 2 weeks, so hopefully they release the interesting stuff before I head off.Here I was looking forward to a month's worth of content when I got back, but I have a feeling this summer will be scarce on updates. ........::::: Rainy's YouTube Channel - Rainy's Twitter - Rainy's Facebook - Rainy's DeviantArt - Rainy's Tumblr - Rainy's Tip.It Profile :::::......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 SaradominSeren help us all. Brb buying a grandmaster aura. I can't remember a month with less content then this one. I'll be leaving for the last 2 weeks, so hopefully they release the interesting stuff before I head off.Here I was looking forward to a month's worth of content when I got back, but I have a feeling this summer will be scarce on updates.Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unb34t4bl3 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Here's to hoping Jagex is working a new game (RuneScape 3). FairTraders.net (Merchant Guides + Grand Exchange Update Notifier)Get FREE Grand Exchange updates through the website, by email, or through your mobile device! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Yeng Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 [hide]Loyalty Rewards (members) Last but not least, this month sees a huge selection of exciting rewards that youll be able to access through the Members Loyalty Program. Earn Loyalty Points to unlock a fantastic range of items, from custom titles to unique emotes, exclusive new costumes and amazing auras in a new player worn slot.[/hide]Wow! I'm more interested in this than the Fremennik Sagas+other June update. Lmfaol!! Anything to make my guy look cool. It's all about the looks, my boy! 2002 - 2003 RuneScape Classic Clans: Wild Dawgs (WD). Court of Dragons (CoD). BlacKnights (BK). Black Dragon Knights (BDK).2009 - 2010 RuneScape 2 Clan/Team: Hardly Dead (HD). Ex-Team Silent Ember (SE).~ Hmong Pride ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swordb88 Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Im as loyal as dwight therefore while you all complain about a few more dollars ima be lookin fly as [bleep]. LOL invite? PM me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassynder Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Im as loyal as dwight therefore while you all complain about a few more dollars ima be lookin fly as [bleep]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dheginsea Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 As long as this new reward thing doesn't affect stats and you don't have to pay money for it (besides mems) then I think i can live with it. I once met a man named Jesus at a Home Depot. Is this the Messiah returned at last? And i once beat someone named Jesus in a chess game. Does that mean I'm smarter than the messiah?BOW TO THE NEW MESSIAH Maybe a president who didn't believe our soldiers were going to heaven, might be a little less willing to get them killed. ~ Bill MaherBarrows drops: 2 Karil's Coifs (on double drop day) 92,150th person to 99 defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 That loyalty thing is just so people keep paying for membership even on months when they would otherwise not because they're not active enough to justify the price, or taking a break. It's all about money. Probably now some people are going to subscribe nonstop for the next few years regardless if they're actually logging in or not. This, If i wanted to take a break but was close to some good 'loyal' item i'd just let my members carry on for a measly £3.50 a month. This, I only really play for a few months out of the year, so now I can either waste money or miss out on whatever crap they are deciding to dole out. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylpheed Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 At least Jagex is working on a new game (Stellar Dawn). Went ahead and fixed that for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_Servo Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 At least Jagex is working on a new game (Stellar Dawn). Went ahead and fixed that for you. Let's not forget that Transformers MMO they're also working on, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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