pulli23 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Well he was lvl 138 :P, and the leader..... But this starts happening more and more.. People either hog up all the food, yet if they die they simply log out of the game. Leaving you with 4 people impossible to beat the dungeon.. First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhaperPlane Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I've been trying out this skill today and I like it. :) I would like to see in the future more areas to train this skill. Oh and, Tears of Guthix is an easy way to gain so many levels, I started at Level 1 and I jumped 10 levels after a 1 run at ToG. :razz: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_Warrior Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 and binded the primal maul not knowing if I had just made the biggest mistake of my dungeoneering career. Hardly a mistake considering if it turned out you didn't like the maul, a promethium spear is easy to get if you find a good smith.(how is the maul though, in comparison to the spear?) Its hard to find a 90 smith, and even if I do sometimes they don't want to make me one out of pure jerkiness, or sometimes they get pissed off at me for doing the infinite money trick for hours on end trying to scrap together the 416k needed. I got my prom spear because a very nice level 138 fellow with all 99s (except dungeoneering, of course) made me it along with a gorgonite platebody. Prom spear had like 127 stab I think. Primal maul has about 157 crush. I know most bosses are weak to stab, but I think having a massive crush bonus will make up for it. Maul is only 1 speed slower than a spear too. But yes if I had a primal spear I would defintely choose it over the maul. If you have a choice of weapons, you should ALWAYS choose the spear. Money trick you say? </intrigue> Dragon Drops : 5 Dragon Medium Helmets, 3 Dragon Claws, 3 Dragon platelegs, 2 Dragon plateskirts, 2 Dragon Hatchets, 2 Dragon Spears, 7 pairs of Dragon Boots, 1 Dragon pickaxe, 10 Dragon defenders, 3 Dragon 2h swords, 1 Dragon armour Slice, 1 Dragon armour Lump, 1 Dragon chainbody, 1 Dragon kiteshield, 1 Dragon hasta, 1 Dragon ward, 25 Dragon knives pairsThe Warrior's Blog , Herblore Habitat - Efficient and profitable[hide=Stats and logs].:Adventurer's Log:.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hajutze Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Money trick you say? </intrigue>Making air runes with 44+ rc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I've had both the Primal Maul and the Prom Spear... And the Prom Spear is far better. Just because the maul has 30+ more attack doesn't mean anything in THIS skill. From F30-35, most monsters are resistant to crush... To the point where it's like fighting someone with 400+ crush defense. Whereas, if you can use stab or slash, it's like fighting someone in addy armor, even with the low slash bonus of the spear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabuli Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I've had both the Primal Maul and the Prom Spear... And the Prom Spear is far better. Just because the maul has 30+ more attack doesn't mean anything in THIS skill. From F30-35, most monsters are resistant to crush... To the point where it's like fighting someone with 400+ crush defense. Whereas, if you can use stab or slash, it's like fighting someone in addy armor, even with the low slash bonus of the spear. Actually crush is really useful against skeletons and forgotten warriors so there is a lot of enemies weak against crush attacks too. Prome spear is still numbah one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I've had both the Primal Maul and the Prom Spear... And the Prom Spear is far better. Just because the maul has 30+ more attack doesn't mean anything in THIS skill. From F30-35, most monsters are resistant to crush... To the point where it's like fighting someone with 400+ crush defense. Whereas, if you can use stab or slash, it's like fighting someone in addy armor, even with the low slash bonus of the spear. Actually crush is really useful against skeletons and forgotten warriors so there is a lot of enemies weak against crush attacks too. Prome spear is still numbah one though.Using any kind of melee against forgotten warriors is not very effective. =| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I've had both the Primal Maul and the Prom Spear... And the Prom Spear is far better. Just because the maul has 30+ more attack doesn't mean anything in THIS skill. From F30-35, most monsters are resistant to crush... To the point where it's like fighting someone with 400+ crush defense. Whereas, if you can use stab or slash, it's like fighting someone in addy armor, even with the low slash bonus of the spear. Actually crush is really useful against skeletons and forgotten warriors so there is a lot of enemies weak against crush attacks too. Prome spear is still numbah one though.Using any kind of melee against forgotten warriors is not very effective. =|Crush for the plate ones and stab/slash for the chain ones seems to work fine. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymouse_ Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2uVcqjMmMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Well that's underwhelming. Needs upgraaayyeed. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atestarossa Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 I've had both the Primal Maul and the Prom Spear... And the Prom Spear is far better. Just because the maul has 30+ more attack doesn't mean anything in THIS skill. From F30-35, most monsters are resistant to crush... To the point where it's like fighting someone with 400+ crush defense. Whereas, if you can use stab or slash, it's like fighting someone in addy armor, even with the low slash bonus of the spear. Actually crush is really useful against skeletons and forgotten warriors so there is a lot of enemies weak against crush attacks too. Prome spear is still numbah one though.Using any kind of melee against forgotten warriors is not very effective. =|Crush for the plate ones and stab/slash for the chain ones seems to work fine. crush for plate, stab for chains, and slash for barechested ones. :)Or just take him down with magic if one in your team mages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Is teaming with random people in w2 better than soloing? Today I had quite a bad experience with the people as I spent over 2 hours to earn a massive 30k exp because the idiots wouldn't give me food so I died twice. I can solo in around 8 minutes earning 35k exp per hour.I've been soloing from lv16-44. The random people are normally very uncooperative and all they care about is picking up drops. So even if in a perfect theoretical way teams earn faster xp, I'm sure soloing is faster and more enjoyable, unless you know your team.I solod from 1 to 60 doing one dungeon in around 20 mins, getting like 12k xp an hour max. After that i resorted to RSOF 5:5 large dungeons and got ~35k per dungeon in ~1 hour 15 mins with much less work. This skill is defenitely team based and soloing is ridiculously undervalued. The teams on RSOF are always very well led and i have yet to be frustrated after doing around 12 5:5-s. By the way, why isn't primal warhammer mentioned at all? it's more accurate and a bit less powerful than the spear, but you do have the luxury of wering a kite. Also, spears are rubbish against plate bodied monsters. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peronix Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 <Chaotic Crossbow> +10 more range accuracy than rune cbow, + no spec, = about what I expected. If I were to get all chaotic weapons, this would have to be second to last. Last of course being the staff because it's basically a degradable version of the SoL with but one more mage accuracy but no spec or rune savings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracleman58 Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 <Chaotic Crossbow> +10 more range accuracy than rune cbow, + no spec, = about what I expected. If I were to get all chaotic weapons, this would have to be second to last. Last of course being the staff because it's basically a degradable version of the SoL with but one more mage accuracy but no spec or rune savings. 80 Dungeneering Vs 93 Slayer, I can guess which item would be better. 1593th to 99 Farming - July 08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 <Chaotic Crossbow> +10 more range accuracy than rune cbow, + no spec, = about what I expected. If I were to get all chaotic weapons, this would have to be second to last. Last of course being the staff because it's basically a degradable version of the SoL with but one more mage accuracy but no spec or rune savings. 80 Dungeneering Vs 93 Slayer, I can guess which item would be better.The one that degrades at 200k/hr should be better. Also, you don't need 93 slayer to use an SOL. You do need 80 dungeoneering, which is a pretty big time investment. If they had just given it a 20 or 25% magic damage boost and then made it 2h, it would have been fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blutters Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 <Chaotic Crossbow> +10 more range accuracy than rune cbow, + no spec, = about what I expected. If I were to get all chaotic weapons, this would have to be second to last. Last of course being the staff because it's basically a degradable version of the SoL with but one more mage accuracy but no spec or rune savings. 80 Dungeneering Vs 93 Slayer, I can guess which item would be better.The one that degrades at 200k/hr should be better. Also, you don't need 93 slayer to use an SOL. You do need 80 dungeoneering, which is a pretty big time investment. If they had just given it a 20 or 25% magic damage boost and then made it 2h, it would have been fine.Does anyone have a picture of the staff yet? The Chaotic Crossbow looks really cool; I have high hopes for the staff...!Oh, and I figure they made it 1h because it's the only magic weapon released, and they probably intend for it to be used with its corresponding shield.~ Speaking of, do we have any pictures of the shields yet? I'm curious about those as well... Also, does anyone think that they will release a +20% necklace with batch 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonlordjl Posted May 2, 2010 Share Posted May 2, 2010 Also, does anyone think that they will release a +20% necklace with batch 2?If they do, they damn well better release the ability to sell back rewards for a 100% refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mecakoto Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Also, does anyone think that they will release a +20% necklace with batch 2?If they do, they damn well better release the ability to sell back rewards for a 100% refund. +1. I just spent 3 weeks to get it because it is the best mage item you can get. If better is released... Lol. The challenge of a mistake is not to avoid it. The challenge of a mistake is dealing with the outcome. Proud of who I am and what I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peronix Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Hey everyone, guess which boss I was just fighting... <_< Nice fail Jagex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omali Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Hey everyone, guess which boss I was just fighting... <_< Nice fail Jagex. You were fighting...Chuck Norris. In which case, everyone knows he can't be fought in any area, regardless of PvP status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Hey everyone, guess which boss I was just fighting... <_< Nice fail Jagex. The giant mole? Little more depth for those of us who dont care much about training this skill until the second batch would be nice. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachneap Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I can tell from the pic, regardless of the text that the boss is rammernaut... only thing i hate about him is that occassionally my familiar will refuse to attack him. And that sometimes he won't stop charging and i can't get near him >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maze Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 I don't really like this skill actually. Probably because I haven't played in a while and I'm stuck at level 5 and everybody else is at like level 50 Dungeoneering. -.- But I guess I have to train it to get the uber awesome weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario_sunny Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Well I am convinced that the primal maul and the prom spear are pretty much the same thing when you average it all out. Even if I had the prom spear I wouldn't be bothered to switch styles to take down different monsters because I'm trying to train defense right now so I'd always leave it on the Stab - Defense option. If they release a boss that drops primal spear though, I will defintely take that over the maul. By popular demand, this signature is back- however I currently do not have a blog up at the moment and if I did I wouldn't update it. Sorry, the sig links to nowhere :( . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peronix Posted May 3, 2010 Share Posted May 3, 2010 Yeah, it was Rammernaut. The annoyance being that after he uses his charge he apparently counts as a player, making him immune to vengeance, hence the messages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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