Den Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 There's a rumor going around that Triple Zeal won't be happening because the bots got around it. Can anyone confirm if this is true? Will believe it when I see it. Water looks epic now. ........::::: Rainy's YouTube Channel - Rainy's Twitter - Rainy's Facebook - Rainy's DeviantArt - Rainy's Tumblr - Rainy's Tip.It Profile :::::......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
essiw Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Can people post more pics from the water? :D because I can't see it :( (because it is not yet updated in open GL) http://sign.tip.it/1/2/79/260/essiw.png Retired item crew I would like to be credited as essiw at the website update & corrections forum. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_R Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 http://runetrack.com/history.php?user=Robert_RGaining ranks without getting xp. Fun. Not much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 There's a rumor going around that Triple Zeal won't be happening because the bots got around it. Can anyone confirm if this is true? Sorry, I've no proof to provide you but only my common sense. Jagex aren't going to punish legitimate players (By not providing what was promised) because bots have found a way to cheat it. (If they have) RIP Michaelangelopolous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingjj Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 As far as banning goes, I've gone up ~1000ish ranks in attack, strength, defense, construction, and a couple other skills in less than 12 hours of not logging in. It seems now that the update is out, they are slowly banning people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patr1ck Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_lee8 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Apparently according to twitter RiD bots are still working. Now I've not heard of them before today (are they the 2% jagex cant detect?) but from what I gather it reads the screen and uses AI to control the mouse :SMost people call them colour bots. The update wont affect them, because they interact with the legitimate game client. I expect to see a huge surge in the number of people using these (they are inferior to the other bots, but way harder for the server and probably Jagex staff to detect). These bots are much easier to [bleep] with too so I don't mind :D EDIT: Wow the water looks amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirror Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 That water looks amazing! But yes, I've been enjoying the fruits of the triple xp :) Can't wait for the extra penguin points. A reflection is just a distorted reality held by glass and your mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Is it likely for people to stop hoarding resources and flood the market causing a temporary crash? Also, what are dragon bones going at for the moment? And is it worth me paying a higher price due to bots not working or will bots likely come back and I should wait for prices to settle back to what they were? I'm an extremely casual player, so waiting doesn't bother me too much if I have to. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossed_Body Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Also, what are dragon bones going at for the moment? And is it worth me paying a higher price due to bots not working or will bots likely come back and I should wait for prices to settle back to what they were?Simply put, we cannot know at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 The water looks like it did in the Deadliest Catch quest BTS/Fansite Images. I'm glad they FINALLY made the changes to all water. Took 'em long enough >_>'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatebringer Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Also, what are dragon bones going at for the moment? And is it worth me paying a higher price due to bots not working or will bots likely come back and I should wait for prices to settle back to what they were?Simply put, we cannot know at this time. I agree you should wait until the price settles because people are buying out high value items bots had previously accumulated to use, and since they are banning bots, its possible that alot of the items may have been removed from the game but the actual number isnt know for a few days/weeks. 99 Fletching 99 Attack 99 Constitution 99 Cooking 99 StrengthGamertag: H8tebringer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ermy Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Page 3 made me giggle :smile: QFC: [qfc]15-16-447-63307160[/qfc] Those with a little bit of knowledge are more dangerous than those with none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovecuttingyews Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Found this on a bot website, looks like Jagex actually did something quite substantial. I doubt this will keep them away forever, but it'll take a LOT of resources to get around (if I understand what they're saying);[spoiler=Here]Yohanu (Speljohan) they've butchered the client for real all instance variables are gone t's all in a massive object array Frell Bzigalsmichtz says so youre basically telling me that jagex knew what they were doing this time? and bot owners dont know what theyre in for yet? jacmob etc Yohanu says yep Frell Bzigalsmichtz says are trying to keep their community calm Yohanu says i expected them to go this far Frell Bzigalsmichtz says by saying "oh ill have it in a few hours" Yohanu says eventually Frell Bzigalsmichtz says so Yohanu says basically Frell Bzigalsmichtz says how to get around? Yohanu says every object in game is an index in the array rite like every part of game engine the array is just an Object[][] meaning you can't tell what type is in what index and my guess is that everytime you connect all indices are scrambled resulting in something even harder than making a packet bot Frell Bzigalsmichtz says thats what WoW did it pretty much destroyed private servers Yohanu says ll so yeah this is luls pretty sure they do reflection checks now too as a backup in addition to more gradual updates looks bright finally i can actually talk to people in game instead of talking to walls (bots) Frell Bzigalsmichtz says I quoted this convo Yohanu says mk Frell Bzigalsmichtz says for the [bleep] mscp 12 year olds who think theyre badass because they can load up a bot and hit start Yohanu says ol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatherdeath Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Page 3 made me giggle :smile: QFC: 15-16-447-63307160 I'm still rather suprised at the level of confidence that they're displaying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Well if you look at the post above yours, Fatherdeath, I think that confidence may have solid grounds. RIP Michaelangelopolous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingjj Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Well, they've already made it much farther than they usually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deborah_ Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Seems like there will be another big update tomorrow and this was only a start (I didn't think they would just have 1 update and keep it that way). It seems this could actually work. But we'll see. QFC: 15-16-447-63307160Page 40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjjon123 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Seems like there will be another big update tomorrow and this was only a start (I didn't think they would just have 1 update and keep it that way). It seems this could actually work. But we'll see. QFC: 15-16-447-63307160Page 40...We are looking at tackling some of the root causes of botting like grind... I will quit rs if they mess with the current system. Please no more gamebreaking bonus xp (like from effigys), AND PLEASE no buying xp/gp with money. 1,000 F2P Total Level Reached 10/8/10 ! [hide=Guides]Magic & Summoning Profit Spreadsheets! *UPDATES EVERY HOUR* (includes: High alch, Superheat, and Enchanting)4 BETTER alternatives to flesh crawlers[/hide] WOT WOT! ☉.☉☂ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mh1456 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Well, they've already made it much farther than they usually do. Yep, gotta hand it to Jagex atleast for the moment. Usually whatever they do flops. Who knows, they might win the war on bots after all.... "dat confidence" as MMG said, haha.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 QFC: 15-16-447-63307160Page 40...We are looking at tackling some of the root causes of botting like grind... I will quit rs if they mess with the current system. Please no more gamebreaking bonus xp (like from effigys), AND PLEASE no buying xp/gp with money. I think that's honestly the only thing they can do. The fact is, many people bot because the game is grindier than all hell. That says a lot about the current system. I've played an MMO where they completely removed the grinding system that you see in traditional games and replaced it with one where you could gain XP while offline. :smile: It pretty much solved the problem with bots. Many people quit over it, but things settled and people adapted. Same happens in every game. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pal2002 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Wow, I can't believe that so far it's actually working. 93k ppl online..and strangely, that feels so much better than 193k "ppl" online. No mass ban or anything....but I give jagex credit for finally securing the game client, this is a great investment to the game. Let's see what happens next.... I would prefer even to fail with honor than to win by cheating - Sophocles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginger_Warrior Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 The first thing I did was look at the number of people online, and I'm pleasently surpised that 93K people are still online during peak-time in the US. Although this is far lower than the 100K+ figures that existed prior to this update, it's relieving to know so many people remain "legit". Granted, that 93K people might include people who previously botted, read the news post last week, and stopped before being caught red-handed. The medium-term playing figures in the future will be very interesting, to see if those players simply drop-off because they can't cheat their way into becoming uber-strong anymore. | Favourite Game Music | Last.fm | HYT Friend Chat Rules | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Yes, it's great that they're doing this for the game, but my main problem is that the bots were the only things keeping resources low for training skills. Now prices will probably rise, and I remember when dragon bones were 8-9k a piece, which is bullshit. I think massive inflation makes the game a lot grindier, and with money being grindy and with it being important for skills and with skills being so important in this game, it inherently encourages illegitimate gameplay. I don't think any healthy person would want to spend 10 hours a day on a game in order to accumulate wealth just to get good skills and then use the skills to get even more wealth. I think a lot of the botters (not goldfarmers) actually were people who wanted to play the game, but they didn't want to have to donate hours of their life to a video game and put up with the grind. So in that regard, I hold a lot of sympathy for them, and I have less sympathy for those who get upset when training skills becomes more bearable for the vast majority of the players. SWAG Mayn U wanna be like me but U can't be me cuz U ain't got ma swagga on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly_Wizard Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Wow, I can't believe that so far it's actually working. 93k ppl online..and strangely, that feels so much better than 193k "ppl" online. No mass ban or anything....but I give jagex credit for finally securing the game client, this is a great investment to the game. Let's see what happens next.... I don't think it's that many during the day. I believe it's usually about 130 - 140K'ish people online during the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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