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Just deleted my credit card details, I just had to set up a new bank account for other reasons I don't need security problems now. I'll still keep playing, but I may change my mind depending on how much the game changes from here.

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I'd just like to say that although I don't approve of this update, the real harm is probably minimal. To level a skill from 80-99 using squeal costs ~$2,000 USD. The super-rare items are also untradeable, and well, super-rare (probably something like 1/1000 if not rarer). Unless someone has thousands of dollars lying around to spend on Runescape (which I somehow doubt), there will be no noticeable "unfair" inflation in either hiscore ranks or wealth from anyone. At most, people will buy some spins just to try it out, and once they find out the reward/$ ratio isn't what they hoped to be, it will just be business as usual.

 

Besides, knowing Jagex they will probably put the money to good use. The CEO mentioned that they wanted to get off the outdated Java platform, onto something more efficient, powerful and portable, and the money could very well be going towards that.

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You have to go and 'buy membership'. Pretend you're resubscribing and say you're paying by card. I'll come up with your saved card details and there should be a link to manage your cards, you can remove it from there.

Thanks, that worked indeed. I had cancelled my membership, but hadn't removed my card as I wasn't aware it was stored elsewhere as well.

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scary thought, scary thought. What happens when your account goes ftp? Can you still buy spins from the wheel?? And if you can does that mean your credit card info is still saved on that account even though you never touched it in months ?!?

 

If jagex was idiotic to not remove credit info on f2p accounts this means that even if you quit months ago your credit card could still be used.

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Me behave? Seriously? As a child I saw Tarzan almost naked, Cinderella arrived home from a party after midnight, Pinocchio told lies, Aladin was a thief, Batman drove over 200 miles an hour, Snow White lived in a house with seven men, Popeye smoked a pipe and had tattoos, Pac man ran around to digital music while eating pills that enhanced his performance, and Shaggy and Scooby were mystery solving hippies who always had the munchies. The fault is not mine! if you had this childhood and loved it put this in your signature!

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if jagex is taking this new line even one more step, I'm out. I have no wish of playing a game where extra real life cash can buy instant benefits like this..

 

I find it funny how they have told us this would never happen, and that they have been so hard on gambling in game, this is most definitely gambling, that 50gp is as good as nothing, using a loop hole.. low...

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scary thought, scary thought. What happens when your account goes ftp? Can you still buy spins from the wheel?? And if you can does that mean your credit card info is still saved on that account even though you never touched it in months ?!?

 

If jagex was idiotic to not remove credit info on f2p accounts this means that even if you quit months ago your credit card could still be used.

Yes your card is remembered.

Yes as f2p you can still buy spins

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scary thought, scary thought. What happens when your account goes ftp? Can you still buy spins from the wheel?? And if you can does that mean your credit card info is still saved on that account even though you never touched it in months ?!?

 

If jagex was idiotic to not remove credit info on f2p accounts this means that even if you quit months ago your credit card could still be used.

Yes your card is remembered.

Yes as f2p you can still buy spins

 

Jagex is so in for a lawsuit once dozen of members who quit and had their account hijacked get thousands of dollars worth of credit card bills.

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Me behave? Seriously? As a child I saw Tarzan almost naked, Cinderella arrived home from a party after midnight, Pinocchio told lies, Aladin was a thief, Batman drove over 200 miles an hour, Snow White lived in a house with seven men, Popeye smoked a pipe and had tattoos, Pac man ran around to digital music while eating pills that enhanced his performance, and Shaggy and Scooby were mystery solving hippies who always had the munchies. The fault is not mine! if you had this childhood and loved it put this in your signature!

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This I think has really done me in on playing runescape... :mellow:

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Wait what? You can just randomly buy spins without entering your credit card info??

 

We figured we'd post this: http://tip.it/runescape/index.php?news&id=2735

 

Great to see you warning people about this. Perhaps add an announcement to TIF with this message as well might be a good idea?

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I find it funny how they have told us this would never happen, and that they have been so hard on gambling in game, this is most definitely gambling, that 50gp is as good as nothing, using a loop hole.. low...

Hold on a second, I just thought of something. I'm not so sure we can bring this up without incurring the wrath of other industries, notably TCG like Magic. I mean think about it, when you buy a pack of cards there's no guarantee that what you'll get will be of equal value to the money spent, they might all be worthless or you could have gotten something worth a lot of money. So in that way wouldn't we be considering something like the Pokemon Card game a form of gambling? Hell, that's more insidious since you can sell the cards for money back quickly and legally.

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99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12

99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14

99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14

9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14

99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22
Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09
Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13
Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 32 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks

Dragon: 9 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward
Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages
Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots

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Hold on a second, I just thought of something. I'm not so sure we can bring this up without incurring the wrath of other industries, notably TCG like Magic. I mean think about it, when you buy a pack of cards there's no guarantee that what you'll get will be of equal value to the money spent, they might all be worthless or you could have gotten something worth a lot of money. So in that way wouldn't we be considering something like the Pokemon Card game a form of gambling? Hell, that's more insidious since you can sell the cards for money back quickly and legally.

That's been done.

I find the part about games interesting as well.

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I find it funny how they have told us this would never happen, and that they have been so hard on gambling in game, this is most definitely gambling, that 50gp is as good as nothing, using a loop hole.. low...

Hold on a second, I just thought of something. I'm not so sure we can bring this up without incurring the wrath of other industries, notably TCG like Magic. I mean think about it, when you buy a pack of cards there's no guarantee that what you'll get will be of equal value to the money spent, they might all be worthless or you could have gotten something worth a lot of money. So in that way wouldn't we be considering something like the Pokemon Card game a form of gambling? Hell, that's more insidious since you can sell the cards for money back quickly and legally.

 

Yes, TCG's are definitely like gambling, especially with booster packs.

 

One thing that's interesting to note is even after you purchase your spins, Jamflex still owns the things that you've spun.

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I find it funny how they have told us this would never happen, and that they have been so hard on gambling in game, this is most definitely gambling, that 50gp is as good as nothing, using a loop hole.. low...

Hold on a second, I just thought of something. I'm not so sure we can bring this up without incurring the wrath of other industries, notably TCG like Magic. I mean think about it, when you buy a pack of cards there's no guarantee that what you'll get will be of equal value to the money spent, they might all be worthless or you could have gotten something worth a lot of money. So in that way wouldn't we be considering something like the Pokemon Card game a form of gambling? Hell, that's more insidious since you can sell the cards for money back quickly and legally.

 

Yes, TCG's are definitely like gambling, especially with booster packs.

 

One thing that's interesting to note is even after you purchase your spins, Jamflex still owns the things that you've spun.

At the same time though courts have set the precedent that the players have significant emotional and economic investment in their accounts and have some claim to the items as discussed here. I'd honestly be ok with this if it was only for the silly cosmetic items, but since it not only gives high-level armor, regular exp, and a slim chance of lots of money I just honestly have to stand against them.

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99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11

99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12

99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14

99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14

9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14

99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22
Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09
Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13
Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 32 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks

Dragon: 9 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward
Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages
Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots

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This is literally the end of runescape as we have always known it. The game, built on the basic egalitarian principle that you could do well in the game regardless of your irl financial status, has completely ended. I doubt Andrew Gower and other rs founders would have ever wanted to see this.

 

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Forgive me for coming on TIF for a short time to confirm what I've been thinking ever since I left RS - Jagex is milking its dieing game as much as it can before it dies. I'm not surprised in the slightest, this has been coming for a long time.

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Forgive me for coming on TIF for a short time to confirm what I've been thinking ever since I left RS - Jagex is milking its dieing game as much as it can before it dies. I'm not surprised in the slightest, this has been coming for a long time.

Coming here to dance on Runescape's grave is the pettiest thing you could have done.

 

Move over, I want five more minutes of dancing first.

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